[TheRooster]

bert, the aresti isnt drawn to scale, it is simply a picture describing what the menuver is, the snaps dont have to maintain a perfect circle its a stalled menuver. on number 2 you were asking how you get to inverted or dashed line with a 1/4 roll from upright, a dashed line doesnt indicate the plane is inverted, it indicates a negatively loaded, we are pushing making the airplane negatively loaded, thus a dashed line, il try to answer the rest of them tomarow, i havent gone to bed yet and its 6 am, been up working on a foamy to fly tomarow night. wayne correct me if any of what I just said is wrong. Just dont take the arresti so litterally. Dontas did fly some menuvers wrong, he was simply just trying to show placement and the basic elements. all the best.