11.5 is what I fly at when I bang in full collective! 16 is WAAAAAYYYYYY TOOOOOOOOO MUUCCCCHHHH!!!!!! Agreed, hence my questions above!!!
I just got home form work, and got my calip's with me, and heading to my kickass bar/basement to finger it out!!!!! Hopefuly, in a hour or 2 I will have results................