[KrisW]

	Quote: Originally Posted by excelpoint
	Goto agree with Paffy. Although form the Vid(which is hard to tell with no ground perspective) I would say your downwind spin did not really stall. You did have a slight break but then the plane flattens out bringing the wing below its critical angle of attack(about 16-18 degrees I think) therefor the plane is no longer stalled. On the upwind spins the little pop up you do would not score as a stall if I were judging you. Again you do stall the plane momentarily but then it flys out the other side before being forced into a spin. Also as Paffy stated it is definately not a zero if the wing and nose dont drop at the same time just a downgrade.

The popup is a stall, end of discussion. You may not like it, but the plane is totally stalled at that point, with zlmost zero airspeed and as can be seen the wing falls through and spins nicely. . in a REAL autorotation. The only reason it's used is because 90% of people judging can't tell when the plane is stalled, so it's necessary to hold their little hands and SHOW them the break in spades. It's pitiful that it is necessary at all, and a very strong statement as to the horrible ability of most judges in IMAC. With the popup you get a clean break, WITH wing tip drop at the same time, and it does not fly through, it falls through. I'll take the 1 point deduction so that the guy sitting behind me KNOWS the plane stalled. If I ever went into a spin flat, he'd be saying I flew into it because he didn't see the break. I've had zero airspeed breaks into spins zeroed because no one is able to comprehend this. Again. our judge training SUCKS.

You want to improve upon this video. . make your own. THEN. . take it and shove it down the throat of every beginner judge in IMAC, because that is the only way it's ever going to get better.