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Kris, if you dont like being criticised please do not post this type of stuff and state comments are welcome. I never stated I wanted to improve the video, I just stated what I saw, and to me it looked like the plane flew forward after the popup. As I said thats just what I saw. I never also stated I dont like the popup. If you re read what I wrote it says" Again you do stall the plane momentarily but then it flys out the other side before being forced into a spin" Again you misread Paffy's statement, never was it said that if the plane does not stall it is not a zero. You can stall a plane with out dropping a wing. If the nose falls straight through the horizon with out a wing dropping say from an initial nose up attitude of 45 degrees to a nose down attitude of 45 degrees before autorotation starts the that would be a 9 point downgrade, thats fairly straight forward as per the rules. problems will occur when judges start trying to modify the judging criteria to suit themselves. If all judges just followed the criteria instead if trying to modify it we would seem some sort of uniformity in judging. Just remember people are allowed to disagree with your technique, some of us may actually know what we are talking about.