[KrisW]

	Quote: Originally Posted by excelpoint
	Babflyer you are correct, the plane does not have to be stopped to be stalled but from what I could see in the vid is that the plane FLEW forward after the stall before tipping into the spin, thus the plane was no longer in a stalled state.

"Stalled" flight does NOT mean the aircraft comes to a halt in the air. It never has meant that.

The term "Stall" refers to the stalling of airflow over the wings shape, which reduces lift and causes the wing to no longer fly. Any time you see someone doing a harrier, the wings are stalled at high AOA, yet the plane is moving along pretty well at 5-15 mph usually.

With sufficient head wind the plane's relative airspeed may never be low enough to allow the wings to stall while it is moving forward relative to the ground. By the same token, with a 30 mph tailwind, the plane may "Stall" going 40 mph relative to the ground observor, and you will see the plane enter a spin as it passes by at a pretty good clip. The wings are still stalled, but YOU see the plane moving.

It's confusing, but people who KNOW what they are looking at take the wind into consideration and can judge the manuver properly.

As I mentioned in the video, Downwind spins are very difficult to judge, and fly properly, due to this phenomenon. What to look for in this aspect of the spin was also related. The plane may have flown forward after the break. . it may also have been a proper spin. You decide. That's why the video is up there. There were about 15 downwind spins to look at. Most were intentionally botched.