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Old 01-24-2007, 09:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is Bad Ass!!!!http://www.crazyaviation.com/movies/CA_SU-30.wmv Enjoy
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Damn - thats pretty manouverable! At one point I thought it was going to do a back flip!
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter

It is awesome watching the thrust vectored manuevers this and the Raptor can do.

In a dogfight , do these manuevers have an advantage or are they just for a power a show?? I mean if it slows down to 3D like that....is it going ot get a siewinder or equiv slammed into it??

Just because it can do it, does it make it an operational or tactical sense???
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think in a traditional dogfight you are too close to use missiles and it is a case of who can get their nose guns pointed on who first. If that is the case then I would think thrust vectoring is definately an advantage?..
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Awesome huckin'!

FWIW, in real combat, it's all about the range of your radar. The F 15 for example, will see the enemy, lock radar, fire, and bolt out even before the enemy sees them on the radar.

... try to beat that .
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I just want a ride. That would be better than any roller coaster in the world.
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Default Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter

What amazes me when watching this airplane, is that when it's in a situation where none of its surfaces are developing lift and the tail isn't pointed to the ground, like in the flat spin at the beginning of the clip. it's not dropping out of the sky.

These airplanes have a very high wing loading, but it still performs maneuvers as if in slow motion, as if it's very light; that's what blows my mind.
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What amazes me when watching this airplane, is that when it's in a situation where none of its surfaces are developing lift and the tail isn't pointed to the ground, like in the flat spin at the beginning of the clip. it's not dropping out of the sky.

These airplanes have a very high wing loading, but it still performs maneuvers as if in slow motion, as if it's very light; that's what blows my mind.
yeah that flatspin was sweet
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Hey Guys:

Take a look at the last few seconds of the video. It looks like the only 'thrust vectoring' the SU-30 could do would be via the 'turkey feathers'. My bet is the canards make the really outrageous maneuverability possible. Watch them during the really 'nonaerodynamic' maneuvers.

I could be wrong, but it's just my opinion!

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If you watch close at about 2:25 in the clip you can see the nozzles move.
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Default Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter

Wizard:

Yep, saw it! When you're right, you're right. The nozzles are not like the Raptor's, but they do move. With the canards, and thrust vectoring; that thing can really do suprising stuff!

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Default Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter

the raptor has 2d thrust vectoring for pitch and roll where as the su-30 has 3d thrust vectoring for pitch roll and yaw. that thing would beat the snot out of the 22
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