GYRO on Extra 27%

[wawa]

Hi

I'm Wagner from Brazil and new member on FG forum.

I need some help and informations about how is possible place a GYRO sistem on my aircraft for help me to do a 3D maneuvers like a "easiest" torque roll.

Looking some magazines (Model Airplane News, 3D-Flyer) and watching a USA competitions DVD's I saw gyros on the radio system of many airplanes and this cause me some curiosity...

What's the brands and models of gyros available for this...
How is the radio setup's....

Just for info, my airplane is a 27% Extra 300L from brazilian manufacturing LEM MODELS, with a KROMA 50C.C, Hitec digital 5645 servos on wings and the elevators, Hitec digital 5745 on the rudder and a R149DP receiver with a Futaba 9CAPS radio system.

All information about this is welcome.

Thank's for all

Wagner

[SleepyC]

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	nd watching a USA competitions DVD's I saw gyros on the radio system

Are you sure?
My understanding is Gyros are illegal in competition in the USA. And to be honest I do not know of one pilot that uses a gyro on an airplane.

I mean I'm sure it would work.. but ......
?!?!

[Toro]

Look ma no gyros !, and no strings. Just lots of practice. A long time ago, when this whole 3d thing started people were swearing there were gyros in use.

[analog_boy]

lol i heli buddy of mine has one on his foamy. He let me try it and it can be hovered with one hand so easily. Its fun but i dont think id do it to a big one. Id say put the time in. Its well worth the effort. However if you did want to it can be done. as far as i know he just set it up square to the airplane and set it up on the rudder. Good luck!!!!

[airriley]

I tried one years ago, a dual axis on elevator and rudder. I am sure it could have been set up better and worked better than it worked for me, but from my experience if you take whatever you might spend on a gyro and spend it on fuel you will be way ahead. You know from trying to torque roll or hover, or watching other people that you sometimes need severe blasts of surfaces to correct the plane, especially when you are not in the "sweet spot". The gyro just would not do that for me. It would respond on proportion to amount the plane was out of heading, but that proportion was never enough. The gyro was designed to maintain headig of an aircraft at flying speeds, not stall speeds. It would work well for anything else other than vectoring thrust.

[Edge 540]

I had a conversation with some club members who swore the top level competitors used gyros routinely during demos to lessen the pressure and ensure an impressive performance. They mentioned some anonymous big name pilot who admitted to using one.

I think its all @%@#. I would be EXTREMELY surprised and quite disappointed if any of them did. We know they can do it, the debate was over whether any of them used gyros as a boost for plain demo/showing off type flying.
I was told that the newest FMA stabilization can maintain a hover when calibrated. If you want to do this, thats where I'd try first.

[rdgood]

Dude,

Dont do it - the pros dont use them either - well at least not in competitions.

Even if you did have a gyro - you will probably want to get rid of it - once you get accomplished at hovering. A properly set up plane will go a long way. A good flight sim is probably the best thing I would recommend.


Ronster

[JohnnyKatana]

well even on a flight simulatore i.e. G3 they have the yak with gyro
i dont fly it but i have and its pretty sweet

[Dennis C]

Mike McConville use to use one. Said it taught him how to hover a plane

[rede2fly]

do they even make a servo thats fast enough with enough tork for the rudder? the servos for helis are very fast but, they dont have much tork.. and on level flight it would have to be turned off correct??

[Edge 540]

The thing is, they dont have to be any faster than what we use now. If the servos will hover a plane now...why not when the gyro is helping? I'm betting the input corrections by the gyro will be no more, if no less than what a beginner would have anyway. The gyro will catch it long before they do, and wont need any special servos.
Just speculation.

[rede2fly]

iam not talking about the gyro. iam talking about the servos being able to keep up with the gyro imputs. by the time a slower servos get and process the information the gyro is allready sending new corrections. at least thats what i would think. that is the reason they make very fast servos for gyros for heli use. to be able to keep up with the gyro signal. maby iam looking at it all wrong. it wont be the first time haha