How To Roll Like Leseberg

3D-Seth · 04-15-2007, 05:56 PM

Okay,
I am learning how to do the fast rolls, and I have found out two things and want to ask you guys, and Beavis.

Do you use 3D rate elevator and rudder? I know when I use 3D rate elevator and rudder, I dont have to move the sticks as far as low rates, thus allowing me to roll faster, but at the expense of touchiness.

If I use low rates, I have to move the sticks farther, which lessens my roll rate, but it isnt as touchy.

What do you guys do? Or maybe Beavis can give us some tips?

Thanks!!
Seth

Stainless Skills · 04-15-2007, 06:04 PM

If you have triple rates then you would just use the middle rate and turn the aileron deflection up or down as much as you would want.

3D-Seth · 04-15-2007, 06:10 PM

well I want to roll as fast as possible, but wanted to see what you guys do . . .

Vic3D · 04-15-2007, 06:53 PM

You want a third rate for 3d ailerons and low elevator and rudder. That's how I do it.

Mudsurfer1234 · 04-15-2007, 06:58 PM

I have the throws maxxed out on everything on my third rate. Just a little more expo than normal on the elevator and rudder, i move the elevator and rudder probobly 1/16"-1/8" if you would measure at the top of the stick.

analog_boy · 04-15-2007, 09:02 PM

I pesronally use full 3d rates with expo. I use this throughout my flight but that is a different story. I would say the less you have to move the sticks the fast you can go. I know i can keep up to full aileron deflection at full power on my QQ but i dont know if i could if i had to move half way to the stop.

everyday3 · 04-23-2007, 06:39 PM

I have it as my second flight mode out of three. 45 on ail 25 elevator 35 rudder with fair amount of expo. 3/4 throttel dont worry you will be rollen fast.

**WOODisGOOD** · 04-23-2007, 07:33 PM

I can tell you Mark only flys with 2 rates. One setup for pattern and the other for 3d. On his 3d setup the ailerons are maxed out and the elevator is around 40 degress. Run more expo on 3d rates and try to get the same feel around center stick when you switch from pattern to 3 d and this should help.

yaks · 05-06-2007, 01:42 PM

more expo on ailerons ....

yaks · 05-06-2007, 01:43 PM

more expo on ailerons ....

Edge 540 · 05-06-2007, 01:58 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by yaks
	more expo on ailerons ....

I believe the intent is to more or less bury the ailerons and do rollers as fast as possible. In this case expo on the ailerons isnt going to do anything.

Izzy · 05-06-2007, 03:12 PM

max out your surfaces and don't move the elevators and rudders too much. if you have to move the sticks too much you won't be able to keep up with the roll rate.

04-15-2007, 05:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
3D-Seth Smokin' Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Holland, Ohio Age: 17 Posts: 1,774 Blog Entries: 11	How To Roll Like Leseberg Okay, I am learning how to do the fast rolls, and I have found out two things and want to ask you guys, and Beavis. Do you use 3D rate elevator and rudder? I know when I use 3D rate elevator and rudder, I dont have to move the sticks as far as low rates, thus allowing me to roll faster, but at the expense of touchiness. If I use low rates, I have to move the sticks farther, which lessens my roll rate, but it isnt as touchy. What do you guys do? Or maybe Beavis can give us some tips? Thanks!! Seth __________________ Team JR Quique's Aircraft Company Desert Aircraft Fancy Foam Models Hacker Brushless Motors Tru-Turn Spinners Aero Protect Corporation 1st U.S. R/C Flight School

04-15-2007, 06:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stainless Skills BOOMSHAKALAKA Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 801	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg If you have triple rates then you would just use the middle rate and turn the aileron deflection up or down as much as you would want.

04-15-2007, 06:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
3D-Seth Smokin' Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Holland, Ohio Age: 17 Posts: 1,774 Blog Entries: 11	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg well I want to roll as fast as possible, but wanted to see what you guys do . . . __________________ Team JR Quique's Aircraft Company Desert Aircraft Fancy Foam Models Hacker Brushless Motors Tru-Turn Spinners Aero Protect Corporation 1st U.S. R/C Flight School

04-15-2007, 06:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Vic3D Mother Huckin' Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Caguas, Puerto Rico Age: 21 Posts: 3,056 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 3	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg You want a third rate for 3d ailerons and low elevator and rudder. That's how I do it. __________________ Proudly Sponsored by: Troy Built Models Aerohobbies B&E Graphics Jersey Modeler Aircraft International

04-15-2007, 06:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mudsurfer1234 3W Plane, DA Engine!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boyertown, Pennsylvania Age: 18 Posts: 507 Blog Entries: 1	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg I have the throws maxxed out on everything on my third rate. Just a little more expo than normal on the elevator and rudder, i move the elevator and rudder probobly 1/16"-1/8" if you would measure at the top of the stick. __________________ Joe Nall '08- is it next year yet? -Planker and Shanker- http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdest...eworldyet.com/


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04-15-2007, 09:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
analog_boy just another model junkie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Morinville, Alberta, Canada Age: 18 Posts: 701 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg I pesronally use full 3d rates with expo. I use this throughout my flight but that is a different story. I would say the less you have to move the sticks the fast you can go. I know i can keep up to full aileron deflection at full power on my QQ but i dont know if i could if i had to move half way to the stop. __________________ Patrick Stubbs Team FlightPower Canada www.FlightPower.ca AXI Motors Pacific Models www.RCModels.ca

04-23-2007, 06:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
everyday3 THe EDGE Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alpharetta Ga Posts: 34	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg I have it as my second flight mode out of three. 45 on ail 25 elevator 35 rudder with fair amount of expo. 3/4 throttel dont worry you will be rollen fast.

04-23-2007, 07:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
WOODisGOOD Lesebergs pit bitch Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tucson Age: 35 Posts: 1,289 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg I can tell you Mark only flys with 2 rates. One setup for pattern and the other for 3d. On his 3d setup the ailerons are maxed out and the elevator is around 40 degress. Run more expo on 3d rates and try to get the same feel around center stick when you switch from pattern to 3 d and this should help. __________________ A J Russo www.daltonaviation.com Desert Aircraft Team JR Fromeco Mercury Adhesives

05-06-2007, 01:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
yaks Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Cyprus Age: 20 Posts: 202	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg more expo on ailerons ....

05-06-2007, 01:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
yaks Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Cyprus Age: 20 Posts: 202	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg more expo on ailerons ....

05-06-2007, 03:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Izzy Stand up and be counted Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: woodbury, mn Age: 23 Posts: 162	Re: How To Roll Like Leseberg max out your surfaces and don't move the elevators and rudders too much. if you have to move the sticks too much you won't be able to keep up with the roll rate.

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