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Old 06-12-2007, 03:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have joined a new field and its has a large enough area that will allow me to practice IMAC. Can you all give me an est. on flying the moves that are on the left and right of my center. I need to figure out were I will be standing on the flight line to accomplish this. Meaning do I fly out on the average of being able to see the plane of course 300 feet to the left and then do a center move then 300 feet to the right of me with the plane being in front of me about 100 feet. That is the kind of scoop I need right now even if there are no guidelines. This is my 1st post in the IMAC so trust me I will read a lot of these posts over the next few weeks.

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Old 06-12-2007, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok.....so here's the deal.

Hardly ever will you stand in the center of the flight line during a contest. Usually you'll see 2 lines running so you'll be offset to the left or right of the flight line.

Right now IMAC is a zoneless box with no moves that have to be centered or at the left or right of the box. Does it look better and score better if you do center, left, right manuevers.....I'd say YES. ACS is the new no box, box score to keep the footprint of IMAC down but the K-factor is so low I'd be more worried about the individual manuevers first.

There is no magic feet distance left or right of center. It depends on judges and the size of your plane. But try to keep your distance left to right equal. And give yourself enough time between moves to setup but keep your droning straight and level to a min (more chance for deductions).

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Gerald,
Have you read the Rules and Regulations? This should answer your questions. Good luck!
http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/...aerobatics.pdf

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Ok.....so here's the deal.

Hardly ever will you stand in the center of the flight line during a contest. Usually you'll see 2 lines running so you'll be offset to the left or right of the flight line.
Actually the center of the box is center of the judges not the center of the flight line or runway, so if there's two flight lines there's two boxes if you know what I mean.

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Actually the center of the box is center of the judges not the center of the flight line or runway, so if there's two flight lines there's two boxes if you know what I mean.

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NO Boxes! you can offset a center manuever due to the sun etc without being penalized.

It will look better right in front of the judgea and an inexperenced judge may give you a higher score for centering it, but technically there is no boxes!!
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NO Boxes! you can offset a center manuever due to the sun etc without being penalized.

It will look better right in front of the judgea and an inexperenced judge may give you a higher score for centering it, but technically there is no boxes!!
There's no center and has not been for a few years. I guess what I'm trying to say is that even when there was centering it would be center of judges unless you would offset the box in which case the pilot would have to notify the judges his intentions before the flight.

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thanks all i will get to reading on that link tomorrow....
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Gerald, is there anyone else in your area that flies Imac that you can practice with?
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There's no center and has not been for a few years. I guess what I'm trying to say is that even when there was centering it would be center of judges unless you would offset the box in which case the pilot would have to notify the judges his intentions before the flight.

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Sorry I wasn't as clear..........The center of the box that doesn't exist should be equal with your own body which should be centered between the judges but infront of them. Don't use the runway to determine the center since you will most likely not fly from the center of it but offset due to 2 flight lines running.

And yes you still get scored on the Box.....its called ACS. How well you use the airspace.......another name but a score to help keep you inside a unspecified box. Like I said earlier.....keep your sequence symetrical.....in that moves on the left are offset from your center 200 ft and moves on the right are the same and you'll be fine. Offset for the sun if you need to.......

But overall.........don't worry about that portion of your flight as much as each individual manuever and HAVE FUN!!!
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Sorry I wasn't as clear..........The center of the box that doesn't exist should be equal with your own body which should be centered between the judges but infront of them. Don't use the runway to determine the center since you will most likely not fly from the center of it but offset due to 2 flight lines running.

And yes you still get scored on the Box.....its called ACS. How well you use the airspace.......another name but a score to help keep you inside a unspecified box. Like I said earlier.....keep your sequence symetrical.....in that moves on the left are offset from your center 200 ft and moves on the right are the same and you'll be fine. Offset for the sun if you need to.......

But overall.........don't worry about that portion of your flight as much as each individual manuever and HAVE FUN!!!
One of the factors that got me interested in IMAC way back when was that a "box" did exit - that box was about 1000' left, 1000' right and 1000' back. There was no height limit other than "no greater than 60 degrees". Now of course, there is no official box. However, in measuring with a tape measure and having a flyer fly a 35% plane from end to end and back to back of that "box", it was more than very apparent to me and the others involved in this measurement, that at a 1000' the airplane looked like it was off the end on your antenna!

So get used to a comfortable distance where you can see your plane and have enough space to not rush your maneuvors, have room to do all of the specified maneuvors SAFELY and yet not draw too long of line between each maneuvor.

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good deal

I am hooping to find someone in the area to start working with. on the weekend i can go to other spots to find someone if needed.
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Gerald, where do you fly? Several of us IMAC wanabees fly at Waymer Field in Huntersville. There seems to be some IMAC interest in the Charlotte area.
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