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Hitec Servo Programming Fixture and Motor Thrust Shims

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809 E. Waco St.
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Introducing the latest tool for accurately programming your Hitec 5955TG servos!!
 
Dale Lathem of Lathem Aero-Hobbies is one of us, he flies IMAC in the South Central region.  Like many of us he uses the programmable Hitec digital servos, specifically the HS-5955TG.  He was setting up his plane one day and thought there must be an easier way to make sure all of my servos have the same center and end points.  Now there is!!!
 
 

Out of the Box:


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My LA-Hobbies programming fixture came carefully packaged in a foam sleeve to prevent damage and was shipped via Priority Mail.  The box included the fixture and a pointer with a nylon jam nut to add to your servo arm, which transfers the arm position down to the plate to make an accurate determination of the angle the servo is at.
 
Since this unit is one of the prototypes, it didn't come with any legs, so I devised legs of my own.  I took a trip to my local hardware retailer and picked up a package of #10-12 x 1 1/2" plastic plugs and a package of #8 x 3/8" pan head screws.  After a light coat of black paint, this is what I came up with.
 
LA-Hobbies is in the process of designing and manufacturing a stand that would mount to the fixture which would set the fixture at a perfict 35 degree angle for use.  That will be a cool addition to the already sweet fixture.


Product Specifications

Dimensions:
 
5" x 5"  fixture with servo opening and locating pins for HS-5955TG's


Adding the legs and a servo

It took me a total of 60 seconds to figure out how to set this thing up, it's as easy as any tool I've ever used.  You take your servo, drop it in the fixture, hook it up to your programmer and find electronic center.  After that you will install your servo arm, with the pointer attached, either on the left or right side, depending on it's intended use, you're ready to start the process.
 
 


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Let's get to programming this servo...
 
You find the center point via the Hitec Programmer's instructions, set that point and then move on to the left and right End Points.  It can't be any easier than this. 
 
What I did was center my servo, set my endpoints at 60 degrees and that was it!!
 
 
 
 


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You will see in the short video that follows, when you push the button on the programmer to do an auto test of the servo settings, the servo will move to the "set center" then it will commence to move left and right to the "set" positions.  Close observation will show that the servo moves to exactly center then to 60 degrees both directions...just as programmed.





This tool rocks!!!

It's hard to put a value on the performance of this fixture, you would need to try it to believe it.  LA-Hobbies claims it's only for the Hitec 5955, but to tell you the truth, I've used it for HS-6965's with good results and I've also been able to use it for 5645's and 5925's.
 
Keep in mind, if you attempt to use this device on any servo other than the one that it's intended for, you may get results less than optimum.  The 59XX and 56XX series servos that I used on this fixture were an extremely tight fit, it worked, but it's not recommended by the manufacturer. 


Since were on the subject of LA-Hobbies, I'd like to bring to your attention another product they're thinking of bringing to market.  These little "prides of joy" are called Engine Thrust Shims.  These shims are numbered as per the specific use, and are intended to fine tune your engines thrust in the field.  It take nothing more than to loosen your engines bolts, slide the shims in place and tighten the bolts.
 
The shims are to be used, per the shim number, as follows:
 
1.  BME 115, vertical and horizontal
2.  3W 106, DA 100 horizontal and DA 50
3.  3W 106 vertical and DA 100 vertical
4.  DA and 3W 150 horizontal
5.  DA and 3W 150 vertical
 
These shims are .032" thick and would give you approximately 1/8 of a degree of thrust.  These shims are designed for fine tuning your thrust angles at the field, not setting preliminary thrust, which would be done during construction of your model.
 
 

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Conclusion

Using this product to set your servos to have all the same centers and all the same endpoints just makes sense.  By using the programmer alone, you can make sure the "electronic" positions are equal, but does that guarantee the arm position is equal?  This product gives you that guarantee...



Lathem Aero-Hobby
809 E. Waco St.
Broken Arrow, OK  74011
 
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http://www.LA-Hobbies.com
 
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This is a great idea!
After reading about it, I immediately emailed Lathem and asked if there is any way
to make a similar gizmo for the giant scale 3D crowd that can be easily used if the
servos are installed in the plane.

It would have to be easily moved around on a wing for example, while being able to keep center on the output shaft.

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I have used mine to setup two 35%'ers and I can say with out any doubt that this jig takes all the guesswork and fiddle f&^%ing around out of the equation. If you don't have one yet, you have no idea what your missing. This is by far the best complement to the Hitec 5955TG and the Hitec Servo Programmer. Totally awsome.
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Can you elaborate a little on your method of setting up a wing let's say, with multiple ( 2 or more ) servos? I've always used the DOD method where you use about 55° of throw each way, but the neutral moves around as you adjust linkages and horns to eliminate binding and fighting of servos.
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Bobnj ;

First thing is to program your servos. You can set whatever end points you want ( 45' or 65' ) or wahtever you like. The longer the throw on the servo the more resolution you will gain out of it also - so I like to run it up to 65'. You dont get that much more actual throw advantage after a certain point but you gain resolution. When I set up the servos I will set each set together ( ie: left wing , rt wing, rudder ). I will set the "master" servo deadband width at "1" and the other servos on that wing at "2". This allows the #2 and #3 servos to have a little more "digital" play in them so they are not fighting.

After the servos are set up set up your control surfaces. Set the control horns up evenly, I measure from the hinge line to the control horn pivot point and make them all the same. I usally just square them for general use - 1" servo arm = 1" horn, or if you are IMAC only you may want to under drive it for more resolution.

After that I install the servos, trying to make sure they are as square to the hinge line as possible. next put in the control rod and plug in the #1 servo and adjust the rod until the control surface is flush or neutral ( remember the servo center is EXACTLY 90' ). Next put in the #2 servo and adjust the rod until it stops humming, and repeat for the other servos.

Hangar 9 makes servo amp meter that you plug in which works well on finding centers and can be used in conjunction with this. So I hav'nt had to make any other adjustments after the initial set-up.

If anyone has any other inputs please respond.
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"( remember the servo center is EXACTLY 90°)"" Next put in the #2 servo and adjust the rod until it stops humming, and repeat for the other servos"Hangar 9 makes servo amp meter that you plug in which works well on finding centers"Are you saying that once you set your center, the ammeter shows no draw or fighting from center to full deflection in either direction?Sorry, but I can't keep my text from running together...

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At center with no weight on the control surface there will be little or no draw on the servo ( no humming ). There will definitely be a draw of power if the servo is working at all - which just the weight of the control surface will make it work. If the servos are fighting each other you will notice that in the sound or the amp draw during deflection. You can hook up the amp meter and do a baseline on the master servo and then check the others to see how muc hof a difference there is and if they are fighting each other.

You shouldn't have any problems at all if your horns are adjusted out correctly.
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The really great thing about this fixture is that it garuntees perfect geometry between paired servos. A common issue when using a Futaba radio with these servos is that the end points "Shift" from where you set them with the programmer. The GREAT news is that with this degree setting fixture you can tweak the endpoints (by changing the exact point with the Hitec programmer) and then check the end result with the radio while the servo is in the fixture. ALL servos will have exactly identical throws and thus eliminating any binding between groups of servos (given the distance from the horn to hinge CL is identical).
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It would be excellent if someone could figure out how to make it work with more than just the servo the modeller cuts it out for.
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I have one of Dale's first prototypes he sent me and it is an awesome product! It is so much quicker and more accurate than any other method I've used to program servos. I have let a few guys at the field use it and the love it! Sign me up for one when the new ones go into production. See you at some contest this year Dale.

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Thanks for the good words Jonus, I appreciated some of the feedback on these. I will have one with your name on it.

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Definately going to New Iberia. Look forward to seeing you there. Bring me a new tray and I'll bring you some cash! What happened to your 260?
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