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Old 09-23-2008, 05:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 9303 or 10c?

Trying to decide weather I wana get the 10c or 9303 2.4 setup, I just havent seen much feed back on the 10c (probably from not having looked very hard) how does it feel? I wasnt a huge fan of the expo curve on the 9c, just felt funny compared to my 9z...going to hobby barn tomarow to pick out a radio and just wanted some input...Thanks!
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: 9303 or 10c?

John,

If I had known you were looking at the 10C, I would have let you try mine before you left. Don't know which expo curve you didn't like, so can't give you any help there. I do like my 10C though. Feels good in the Kiwi !
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: 9303 or 10c?

Check out the polls. 9303 just blows the 10c out of the water in popularity. They are both good. I trust the Spektrum 2.4 system. I don't like what I have heard about the heat issues of the FASST system.

I guess they will both do a good job but I prefer the 9303. The 10c programming is exactly the same as the 9c. Throttle curve is ch3 expo like the 9c. 9303 has a real throttle curve.

X9303 vs. 10C -- which one for christmas?
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: 9303 or 10c?

I really did not like my 9Z-- sold it -but it did all the things it should - just was too awkward to program for me - I was used to my 10x stuff
But if you really like the 9z--get the Spektrum 9 channel rx conversion (cheap right now.)
a little cap fits over your present antenna and the new antenna plops right over that
you end up with eight channels ( aux 2 is inoperative.) and the radio "feels" just the same .
We helped a friend do his 9z . It worked out great, no problems at all.
But if you want a new radio - the x9303 is awfully hard to beat .
The conversion does not have model match but all the DSM2 rx work perfectly with it .
It's a great conversion.
We ran range checks and flight tests with the Spektrum log on board his Ariel pattern bird.
perfect range records -just a few fades .
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Default Re: 9303 or 10c?

I was honestly leaning 9303, but I REALLY like the idea of 2048 resolution...thats the only thing thats holding me up at this point, I can really "feel the difference" with 2048 hahaha (no mallace intendid JR fans =)
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Default Re: 9303 or 10c?

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Check out the polls. 9303 just blows the 10c out of the water in popularity. They are both good. I trust the Spektrum 2.4 system. I don't like what I have heard about the heat issues of the FASST system.

I guess they will both do a good job but I prefer the 9303. The 10c programming is exactly the same as the 9c. Throttle curve is ch3 expo like the 9c. 9303 has a real throttle curve.

X9303 vs. 10C -- which one for christmas?
The 10C does indeed have a built-in 7-point throttle curve mix. There are other misc changes/improvements in the 10C Vs. 9C. (Of course you could still set up a 5-point throttle curve on the 9C, but you had to use one of your curve mixes.)

IMHO the FASST heat issue is way overblown. No one at my field has had a single glitch with FASST, and this is just about the hottest place in the USA (right behind Death Valley). Not so, I am afraid, with Spektrum. Not saying anything is wrong with Spektrum, but seeing a crash due to a not-too-low battery brown-out or loss of bind stays with you.

Personally, when I was looking to go to 2.4 my first priority was the radio link. I looked at systems available at the time and decided FASST was the best, with its hopping Vs. Spektrum choosing two channels at startup.

I've been very happy with my 10C. Prolly would be just as happy with a 9303, as far as the TX goes. They are both good radios.



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I was honestly leaning 9303, but I REALLY like the idea of 2048 resolution...thats the only thing thats holding me up at this point, I can really "feel the difference" with 2048 hahaha (no mallace intendid JR fans =)
9303 has 2048--old news

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Default Re: 9303 or 10c?

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Check out the polls. 9303 just blows the 10c out of the water in popularity. They are both good. I trust the Spektrum 2.4 system. I don't like what I have heard about the heat issues of the FASST system.

I guess they will both do a good job but I prefer the 9303. The 10c programming is exactly the same as the 9c. Throttle curve is ch3 expo like the 9c. 9303 has a real throttle curve.

X9303 vs. 10C -- which one for christmas?

Not a real fair poll seeing the 9303 has been out a lot longer than the new 10c. As others have mentioned, the heat issue is being way overblown. I personally have 8 models (planes and helis) on my 10c and I fly a lot! Never even had a glitch much less a total loss of signal and I live in the hottest place in FL. Our club has about 100 members and there is a bunch of the 7c fasst as well as 10c, 12fg's and 12c's. I honestly have not heard one person complain about any signal losses. There both good radios, I just love the programming on the 10c and the feel.

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Default Re: 9303 or 10c?

Hmm.... Heat issue over blown?????

I'm still on the fence about whether or not there is a serious issue with the 6014's and even if I still flew with Futaba, I'd not be using one in my gassers until the issue is resolved. IMHO,There have been way too many reports of issues to ignore the question.

Now to the OP's original question;

The X9303 has 9 fully proportional channels, the 10C has 8 proportional and 2 on/off channels.

Yes, the X9303 runs in 2048 resolution when used with 9 channel or above rx's. With the 7 channel and below, it runs at 1024.

The X9303 will run any Spektrum/JR 2.4GHz rx. No special monkey business to accomplish that.

The X9303 has ModelMatch and although some have poo-poo'ed the idea, I really like it and judging from the requests over on RCU, there are a number of Futaba users who wish their radios had it.

The Spektrum/JR 7 channel and above rx's have data logger (Flight Log) capability to tell you how solid the RF link is and let you know if a rx needs to be moved for better reception.

All the Spektrum/JR rx's now have Quick Connect so if your power system has issues, it won't cost you a model and will tell you on landing that there is an issue with the power system.

Both radios have a servo grouping feature, supposedly that fixes the notorious dual channel servo lag found in the 9C.

Futaba has a 1 year warranty, JR has a 3 year warranty.

'Nuff said....
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Default Re: 9303 or 10c?

wow I didnt realist the 9303 ran 2048, 9303 it is! Thanks everyone
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www.donalds-hobby.com has the best price on the 9303's,,,

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Hmm.... Heat issue over blown?????

I'm still on the fence about whether or not there is a serious issue with the 6014's and even if I still flew with Futaba, I'd not be using one in my gassers until the issue is resolved. IMHO,There have been way too many reports of issues to ignore the question.
Nonsense. There have been extremely few, if any, confirmed reports of a crash. Ground reports have all been due to clear canopies sitting in the sun with the receiver exposed. Covering the canopy with a towel while out in the sun solved it for most all reported (ground) incidents. A smart thing to do no matter what.

Most of the smoke being blown around is from people who don't even use the system.

Meanwhile I've seen several actual crashes due to Spektrum losing its bind, and low-voltage brownout. Plenty of reported crashes about that too.


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Now to the OP's original question;

The X9303 has 9 fully proportional channels, the 10C has 8 proportional and 2 on/off channels.
Considering most gassers use at least one on/off channel (ignition, choke) that still leaves me with one more usable channel.

Since this thread is pretty much dead I'm just throwing this out there for anyone else who might stumble into it.


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