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Old 10-12-2008, 12:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Want to jump up to a PAU edge 36%

Hey guys,

My first post here and have just been toying around in my mind with jumping up to a 100cc gas plane. Ive been through three planes and quite frankly am sick of the small stuff. My vision isnt bad but they are hard to see and get knocked around by the wind. Ive been flying since april or may of this year. Went through the nexstar, GP cosmic wind minnow, and my current sundowner 50. Now I lost the minnow by flying near dusk and losing orientation but have a new one waiting with a YS110. I loved the way the minnow flew But I do not want to buy any more small planes. And the sundowner is ho-hum for me. Good news is so far no dumb thumb wrecks. Now I know I should do a 50cc first but they even appear too small for me. I want something big I can be comfortable with. Oh and I hate "building" of any kind. So thats why the PAU edge stands out to me. Not to mention the fact its a nice looking plane.

Anyway I dont really know what to buy to finish a plane of this type. I have a JR X9303 and an extra R921 or whatever the 9ch rx is. And about all I really know I need to buy is the airframe and the DA100. What else is there?

Any comments on my choice? I dont claim to be a super newb to flying but I know my limits. And with a plane of this type Im sure you could make it very tame on low rates until the skills progress.

Ill end it there and thanks for your comments,
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Want to jump up to a PAU edge 36%

The build thread and support forum is here. That should answer any questions you have. If not, you can post here or call PAU, they'll be glad to help.

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Old 10-12-2008, 01:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't let people tell you that you cannot go to a 100cc because you only flew .40 planes.

I flew for about 2-3 yrs on a funtana 40 while building a 35% Aerotech Edge 540.

What you will find with the larger planes.


More money so the knees knock a little more. I suggest making it slightly nose heavy for the maiden and let an experienced GS flyer maiden it and trim it out. Then fly it cautious. Circle routes up high in low wind and plenty of light. Get in some good touch n go practice as well. Again fly 4 mistakes high and you will be fine.

Big planes fly alot easier but when you get close to the ground its the same as a little one....only for a big one that distance from the ground is higher due to its size.


As for the PAU Edge.......great plane, great service and its simple to tone down the controls on the plane to make it comfortable. You can always move them to more with today's computer radios.



Large gasser......

You need extensions for the rudder/elevator/ailerons
2 servos for the ailerons, four total
2 for the rudder
1 in each elevator
1 throttle
depending on the servos you may need a matchbox device for the servos that are on the same surface.
You should get some kind of throttle kill.....be it a choke servo or optical kill, I prefer the optic kill

You need a 27x10 size prop or larger.
You need a 4 or so inch spinner
You should run 2 batteries on seperate switches......something along the lines of 2400 LIONS or A123. You also need another battery for the ignition.

Your choice if you want a power expander or thing of that nature.



Depending on the batteries you may need regulators. DA engines don't like to go above 6v (I think) and most servos like 6v.

Find someone close by and get their help! It will make setting the plane up and your first flights alot easier.

And before your first flight go back through the instruction manual and make sure every bolt is tight or threadlocked. Have someone go through your plane and do the same thing.

Fly once......then recheck things. Maidens always show you what you forgot to tighten.

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Default Re: Want to jump up to a PAU edge 36%

You have no worries going to a 35% plane. I went from a 80" cap to a 40% edge and it was the best decision I ever made.
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There is really no advantage to going to a 50cc before a 100cc. You might as well do the 100cc now because you will do it at some point anyway. From the looks of it, the PAU 36% Edge is a very good choice. They are great to deal with and you will be very well supported.
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks guys. Im sick of the little planes disappearing and the planes I have are just general sport planes. The sundowners quick but not fast and the minnow is larger and more "aerobatic" so I decided to get another. It is a fun sport fly plane. But I want a plane that I can knife edge and do a lil more fun wise. Im not too worried about weight but would like a plane that can stand up to a not so pretty landing. In general I do a little inverted flight. I like hammerhead turns with rolls goin in and out. Would like to learn harriers but am not to into hovering a foot off the ground.

And thanks sweetpea Im gonna look into some of that stuff. And as far as DA's not liking 6V's do you just use a large capacity 4.8 for ignition?
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And thanks sweetpea Im gonna look into some of that stuff. And as far as DA's not liking 6V's do you just use a large capacity 4.8 for ignition?
This is what DA folks are doing.

Running A123 packs
Running a 6v NIMH pack
Running a 2400 7.4 LION pack with a regulator. Smart Fly makes a nice 5.4v version.

I fly 3W and they can handle a fresh charged 7.4v pack without a regulator.
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DA 100 is supposed to be a great combo. a good set up would be:

DA100 with(watever canisters)
8611's or 8711s or 5955's on ailerons/elevators.
single 8711 on rudder.
2 fromeco 2600's on the reciver with reg
1 2600 on ign with reg
and some heavy
And i would probably go with matchboxes on each wing if you want to make it easier to match up servos.

27x10 PAU prop(i think this would be the choice).

I may have forggoten a few things but thats the basic set-up i would plan on doing.
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One thing bigger planes don't do is take a lot of hard landings. If you can't make good landings most of the time I would not go to a larger plane. A larger plane is easier to land but not as forgiving.
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I beg to differ DB, My AW Extra 260 took a few rough landings. At my first IMAC contest this year, I let it go right into a ditch I didn't know was there. It hit the ditch pretty hard, and all it did was break a prop. I also had a quite a few rough deadsticks with it when I first started to fly it, and it held up just fine. I think it depends on the plane, but I wouldn't say that ALL larger planes can not handle rough landings. Of course you don't want to do it all the time, but sh** happens .
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Since you are begging I will rephrase that. Bigger planes don't take hard landings as well as smaller planes. It is much easier to rip the gear out of a 100cc plane than a small glow plane. When you have 27 + or - pounds coming down hard on balsa and plywood things can go bad easier. I am not saying having a hard landing will always rip the gear out just that it is more likely.
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All i did was turn around a little too fast at the end of the runway and my Aeroworks yak ripped the gear out. My 42% has been ripped out twice. One was from a not so nice harrier landing. Not enough forward speed and it crumbled. The other was caused by the wheel snagging a wheel pant. It was like slamming on the breaks as it touched down.They do rip out easier with all that weight on them. If you can "float" your trainer in every time, it won't be much different with a 100cc. You just have to fly it all the way down, but they land like a pussycat. Go for it dude. Just get a lot of touch and go practice with your sport planes while you're building it, and once you get it flying, do a lot of touch and go's with it. You'll get used to it pretty quick.
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