3D maneuvers? or Freestyle maneuvers?

[JAS]

OK, in the interest of not cluttering the other Freestyle/3D thread, here it is. What maneuvers go under which of these? Gimme your list for each.

[YNOT]

Oh, there are two of them now. Sorry.

What are you getting at Jason? I know you have a point you are trying to make.

[bodywerks]

TR and hover = 3D
harrier = 3D
harrier roll = 3D
rolling loops and variations thereof = freestyle
rolling circles and variations thereof = freestyle
snaps, all variations and on high or low rates = freestyle
knife edge, all variations, even high-alpha = freestyle
spins, all variations, dropping or climbing = freestyle
basically every other manuever or combo you come up with would be considered freestyle before it is considered 3D, IMO, since I define 3D as forms of flight where prop thrust is providing some, most, or all the lift and that's it.

[hillmanr2]

what about JAS's servo stripping snap to hover?

[madmax]

FREESTYLE!!!!! I'm not going there, but JAS's fav maneuver of mine is the high speed 3D snap to whatever... Love it!

[Ion01]

I have always consider 3d to be defined at a manuever in which the aircraft is flying below the stall speed.

[Mithrandir]

Any flight regime in which 50% or more of the gravity defying forces are generated by the propellor rather then flying surfaces is "3D" Flight.

(No measure that!!! LOL )

[teryn]

You can interpret it any way you want but here's the technical definition. Once again we look to science (amazing isn't it) to answer the question. "3D" is not a flashy buzzword like most think. "3D" is a technical definition and nothing other than that - a term or definition that is not new and has not been created by the RC community; it is not arbitrary or based on opinion. 3D means that there is another component of motion outside the 2D manuever plane - or the plane that the aircraft is operating in. Any aerobatic manuever can be categorized into 2D or 3D just from looking at the component directions of the velocity vector (relative to a fixed 3D coordinate system) at any instant of the aircraft motion. I'll be happy to back this up with a better technical explanation if needed - but it will be way over most people's heads. We use it everyday in the design of our weapons systems. I am sure that somebody with a strong technical background in engineering and design of aircraft and works with this stuff everyday will corroborate this.

	Quote: Originally Posted by Mithrandir
	Any flight regime in which 50% or more of the gravity defying forces are generated by the propellor rather then flying surfaces is "3D" Flight. (No measure that!!! LOL )

[snap a saurus]

Ok here is my interpretation.
3D: any maneuver that a warbird cant do.
Freestyle: All 3D and precision flying combined, mixed and flown to music.
The list is long for both, JAS favorite freestyle of mine is flying mode 1.

[teryn]

my hellcat does a nice lomcevak which is a 3D manuever. Warbirds are cool

[Breakstuff5050]

IMO:

3D - Letting loose, flying without any sense of direction, balls to the wall at the pilot's level. Keeping the pucker factor up!

Freestyle - see snap a saurus

[yooki]

The two aren't mutually exclusive. A freestyle maneuver is nothing on it's own but is really made great by how it's implemented into the routine and how it moves with the music, etc.