Bud Nosen P-51 help

[Bert_Sparrow]

Trumpetman - I have the Nosen P-51 building instructions, and I can fax them to you, or scan and email - still need them? I'm a year late it appears! I just finished my wingsPls let me know.

[loser]

Mine has Likeline electric retracts which are STRONG but HEAVY!!! My P-51 weighs ~40 lbs and I have a Quadra 75 in it which flys it okay but I have a 100 that I intend to swap it with. It has been ~12 years since I built this one but something I had to repair twice is the tailwheel. My tailwheel mount broke loose or more specifically the bulkheads that the bracket mounts to, broke loose from the fuselage sheeting/stringers. I would definitely "beef up" this area.

Steve

OOPS....also just saw i am a year late....lol.

[Trumpetman]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Bert_Sparrow
	Trumpetman - I have the Nosen P-51 building instructions, and I can fax them to you, or scan and email - still need them? I'm a year late it appears! I just finished my wingsPls let me know.

Yes please! I thought this thread had died but I really appreciate the offer for the building instructions! I'll send you a pm

[Trumpetman]

	Quote: Originally Posted by loser
	Mine has Likeline electric retracts which are STRONG but HEAVY!!! My P-51 weighs ~40 lbs and I have a Quadra 75 in it which flys it okay but I have a 100 that I intend to swap it with. It has been ~12 years since I built this one but something I had to repair twice is the tailwheel. My tailwheel mount broke loose or more specifically the bulkheads that the bracket mounts to, broke loose from the fuselage sheeting/stringers. I would definitely "beef up" this area. Steve OOPS....also just saw i am a year late....lol.

Better late than never! Thanks for the information. I'm not familiar with Likeline retracts. Are they still being made? Your tip about the tail wheel mounting is exactly the kind of information I was hoping for. Thanks Did you build in a lot of reinforcement elsewhere? How do you like the flying characteristics of the plane? How does it stall and land at 40 lbs.??

[loser]

As of last year Hank Likes was still selling his retracts. He lives up my way and I see him around now and then. I'll see if I can find his number and post it. As I said, they are heavy...~10lbs with wheels and battery pack and are not cheap but are strong and great realism....slow retraction and extension...~5-7 seconds....COOL! as mentioned in a previous post the wing should be strengthened a bit....especially in the retract mount ribs.

Mine flys very nice at 40lbs. As I said...a bit under powered with the Q75 currently in it. It slows down very nice on landing BUT....you need to keep the nose DOWN and a few clicks of throttle on before flairing. I was reminded of this last year!!! I have mainly been flying the big aerobatic ARF's the past several years that land like a FEATHER and made the mistake of landing the P51 like that. Well the wings started stalling, wobbling a few feet off the ground and I hit the ground hard on one wheel....It ripped out the retract unit. Minor damage to the wing and none to the gear so it will be an easy fix.....

[Trumpetman]

	Quote: Originally Posted by loser
	As of last year Hank Likes was still selling his retracts. He lives up my way and I see him around now and then. I'll see if I can find his number and post it. As I said, they are heavy...~10lbs with wheels and battery pack and are not cheap but are strong and great realism....slow retraction and extension...~5-7 seconds....COOL! as mentioned in a previous post the wing should be strengthened a bit....especially in the retract mount ribs. Mine flys very nice at 40lbs. As I said...a bit under powered with the Q75 currently in it. It slows down very nice on landing BUT....you need to keep the nose DOWN and a few clicks of throttle on before flairing. I was reminded of this last year!!! I have mainly been flying the big aerobatic ARF's the past several years that land like a FEATHER and made the mistake of landing the P51 like that. Well the wings started stalling, wobbling a few feet off the ground and I hit the ground hard on one wheel....It ripped out the retract unit. Minor damage to the wing and none to the gear so it will be an easy fix.....

10 pounds does sound heavy but I wonder what other big gear sets (with wheels) air tanks, hoses and servos weigh? I would be interested in getting more information about the gear. Please post info here so others can check it out a well. It sounds like it lands like a warbird! I am worried about doing the same thing (slowing down too much) because I also fly mainly big, light IMAC planes.

[ISoakFires]

I just recently acquired what sounds like the same kit as ya'll. I was/am a little disappointed with the instructions. I have never build anything this big and was hoping for more pictures in the instructions. I would greatly appreciate anyone's help if they do have something with pictures and potentially compensate. Please show pitty to the noob and spare a little help.

[tmac48]

	Quote: Originally Posted by ISoakFires
	I just recently acquired what sounds like the same kit as ya'll. I was/am a little disappointed with the instructions. I have never build anything this big and was hoping for more pictures in the instructions. I would greatly appreciate anyone's help if they do have something with pictures and potentially compensate. Please show pitty to the noob and spare a little help.

There is a build thread on RCU warbirds
tmac

[Trumpetman]

	Quote: Originally Posted by ISoakFires
	I just recently acquired what sounds like the same kit as ya'll. I was/am a little disappointed with the instructions. I have never build anything this big and was hoping for more pictures in the instructions. I would greatly appreciate anyone's help if they do have something with pictures and potentially compensate. Please show pitty to the noob and spare a little help.

I started this thread because my kit did not have any instructions at all! Thankfully one of the great people on FG came through and now I have the 3 or 4 typewritten pages. I knew that the old Bud Nosen kits didn't come with much so I wasn't surprised. I hope that you have built several kits before. If so then this plane follows most of the 'normal' building procedures - its just on a bigger scale. The biggest hurdle is the fact that you will not be powering this bird with the tiny motor that it was originally designed for. A bigger motor means more weight, more speed and way more stress on the whole structure. If you were to build as designed and then throw in a 80cc gasser you are asking for a disaster. Unless you are comfortable with not only building from just a set of plans AND designing/modifying structures where necessary for the increased power, my advice is that you might want to put this kit aside for a bit.

[tinsink]

Does anyone still have the instructions to the Nosen P-51? I am in need of a set. Can you attach them to a post?

[Trumpetman]

tinsink

pm me with your address and I will photocopy and send you the rather brief instructions that another Flying Giant member sent me.

Gordon

[tinsink]

Thanks for the help. I PM'd you this morning with my address.