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Old 10-26-2009, 10:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
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No it doesn't have that fuction.You actually burn up two mixxes just for setting up two elivator servos using two separete chanles.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Seth with your setup wouldn't that mean if the servo was in the stab you would have to tilt the arm back?You could just flip the servo to the top meaning in the stab and the end of the servo arm were the linkage connects would be the same distance from the stab.I'm trying to make sence of it because I always setup my stuff like extra260 does and my stuff is always the same length and square.My end points are the same also meaning up is the same as down.I don't program the servos i do it in the radio and match-em.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:29 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Thanks agian for all your help. After reading all your advise I am going to first yard my servo's out and send em in for service. I am going to buy a new TX 9303 then start over on the geometry. Figured if I am going to get it done might as well do it right.

Anyway I will post what I find out along with some pics and let you guys know how it turns out.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:41 AM   #28 (permalink)
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You dont have to have a diff Tx. I have set 3 planes up with the same Tx and was very able to have equal travel. Although i like my 9303 better
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:41 AM   #29 (permalink)
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you really can't go wrong with a 9303. you'll love it!
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Subscribed........Good luck Jeff.....I have a similar issue with the same servos but different radio. I still dont understand the part about the servo arm geometry needing to be positioned forward instead of 90 degrees to the linkage. I think your going to have to dumb it down for me Seth.

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Subscribed........Good luck Jeff.....I have a similar issue with the same servos but different radio. I still dont understand the part about the servo arm geometry needing to be positioned forward instead of 90 degrees to the linkage. I think your going to have to dumb it down for me Seth.

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Im not seth but ill add a little bit. You dont really need to understand why just pay attention to your travel adjustment if you get more end points on the push than in the pull for equal throw then you just shorten your push rod then readjust the sub trim vise versa if more in the pull lengthen your push rod until you have your equal throw. The arm offset will be what ever it needs to be. Then just start the opposite side near the same place the original side ended up at.
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Right on Flatlandman...right on....
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Right on Flatlandman...right on....
Ditto...

BTW, this is how it was done before computer radios and programmers. Once you see someone do it this way you will not use anything else. Get yourself a throw gage to make it easier to see.
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You will end up with un-equal elevator travel this way. See attached picture that I drew.

Because the servo is below the stab, when the servo turns towards the elevator, the linkage goes straight much quicker. When the servo turns away from the elevator, it has the reverse effect; pulls the linkage away much quicker. This is why it needs to be mounted with the servo arm towards the front of the airplane.

**Note: this is only for fuse mounted elevator servos, not stab mounted elevator servos.

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Your drawing actually shows why the servo horn should be close to 90 degrees from the hinge line. If you draw a line from the hinge to the servo horn connection it is 90 degrees with the servo horn. Your illustration is the best I've seen yet that shows this. The servo horn relationship to the case never matters only its relationship to the hinge, whether it is in plane or out of plane like on a surface mounted aileron. There is a lot of different geometry issues that can cause the best position to be something other than 90 but it is a good place to start.

There is an excellent thread on setting up linear geometry.
Setting up perfect liner geometry!

I have attachaed a couple of different servo protractors I have created. Depending on the installation they either go over the top of the case or over the whole servo.
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File Type: pdf JR8711 Servo Protractor.pdf (21.2 KB, 18 views)
File Type: pdf Futaba 9157 Servo Protractor.pdf (33.5 KB, 13 views)
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After reading this thread through a couple of times I think I will go over my set up in my Yak. One thing I found buried deep in the manual for my 8U super is that there is a difference in the resalution between channels 1-4 and 5-8. I have one elevator servo plugged into channel 2 and one plugged into channel 8, or is it 7, I'll have to check, same with ailerons, one in channel 1 and one in channel 8, or 7 can't remember. I can center them and I can match max throws but in between is a different story. Any ideas on that situation. I'll be moving into the 2.4 relm this winter but for now it is my trusted 8U that gets the nod..............

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matchboxes and Smart-fly equalizers can be had for very little money. (I have at least 5 matchboxes I'd sell as I have moved to the EQ PE's ).

This keeps them on the same channel and you can adjust endpoints and neutral as well as reverse them. In the realm of IMAC precision is the key. Or you can spend the money on a new radio.
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