GP cap 580 or Eagle

[hartmanperformane]

Hey guys, I need some advise on the set up on the GP cap 580. I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a brand new kit. It seems very nice in every aspect. The manual gives the pilot some different set up configurations. What seems to work the best?
I am a little concerned about putting the large servos on the rear of the fuse rather than building a pull-pull system?? I do have the larger size servos 5050 as well as 8411's that I could use.
Maybe some one could send me some pics of there set-up?? that would be very helpful.

components being used:
DL 111
jr8411 servos
fut 5050 servos
Smart Fly system turbo w/ign kill
2.4 reciever
lipo 2500mah X 2 reciever packs
2500nimh ignition batt
standard hareware with kit
vess 27b prop

[3ddd]

what i did on mine and all planes since is leave the rudder setup till last,finish eveything else and see what place sets the cg closest

[hartmanperformane]

Thanks, I agree. However, the manual says the opposite. It says to finish everything before mounting the wing tube, as there are two positions it can go in.
I am really more concerned with flight characteristics than the balance.

[waterboymikw1]

i am flying the first edition and have a pull pull system in mine. I tend to like very clean setups so if i can hide a servo then i will. I use the two different wing tube sets for the flying i plane on doing

[hartmanperformane]

Im learning a lot about this plane. I did not know you could fly with either position? Seems like a lot of balance difference.

[stinger312]

I have the older version also. I thought the forward position (wingtube) was for setups using the DA 85.? I am running a DA 100 with servos in the tail and the aft position. Flies really well.

[zoomer260]

Okay now that I am on a Great Planes Cap thread (this time) I'll ask what kinda weights you guys comin' up with? The first version.

I plan to use a DLE 111 in the one I have coming. I'm thinking this plane is unique in the duel position wing placement ?

I like Caps with the short nose moment but maybe with the twin it needs the wing in the rear placement. Or maybe I can pull some wood out of the fuse behind the wing tube and use the front position.

Since this plane came from the factory ARC I have choices ! I think this one is gonna be fun.

[Hibrass]

Zoom,

I had a first gen this summer with Carbon Tubes, Gear and DLE111. I also had it setup on the rear wing tube with 2 9152's on the rudder in a pull pull setup.. Because of the Carbon parts I was able to get to 27.5lbs without fuel.. If I ever come across another NIB 1st gen I would build another!

Good Luck,

Ed

[dhawks]

Here's some pics of my recovered Gen 1 580. It's setup with a 3w 106 with pefa cans that run over top of the wing tube by using re-curve headers. It balances on the front tube position with no extra weight an flies very smooth with the added tail moment.

Dennis

[zoomer260]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Hibrass
	Zoom, I had a first gen this summer with Carbon Tubes, Gear and DLE111. I also had it setup on the rear wing tube with 2 9152's on the rudder in a pull pull setup.. Because of the Carbon parts I was able to get to 27.5lbs without fuel.. If I ever come across another NIB 1st gen I would build another! Good Luck, Ed

Hey thanks for your reply. I just wonder one thing. I have heard from two people with the DLE 111. Both had the rear tube placement and both had pull-pull rudder. I'm wondering if the push-pull arrangement could result with forward tube placement.

I am also wondering which placement makes the palne happeir for IMAC style flying versus 3D. I like the plane to groove first. Maybe one day, maybe not I will look into the other style some. But not with this plane. I have a Yak I am sure would be suitable for that should I decide to to do that.

[rotojon]

Hey Dennis,

Sweet looking CAP. I really like the covering scheme. I am interested in the split cowl because I was considering doing that to mine.... Any detailed photos? About how much weight did it add?

Jon

[Hibrass]

	Quote: Originally Posted by zoomer260
	Hey thanks for your reply. I just wonder one thing. I have heard from two people with the DLE 111. Both had the rear tube placement and both had pull-pull rudder. I'm wondering if the push-pull arrangement could result with forward tube placement. Push Pull would make it harder to balence on the forward tube... I had to move my Batteries to the rear of the Canopy hatch to balence with a pull pull and rear tube. I was able to balence on the forward tube by moving my batteries to the fuel tank area... I am also wondering which placement makes the palne happeir for IMAC style flying versus 3D. I like the plane to groove first. Maybe one day, maybe not I will look into the other style some. But not with this plane. I have a Yak I am sure would be suitable for that should I decide to to do that.

Mine flew IMAC very well on the Rear tube... And tumbled like nothing else!!

Good Luck,

Ed