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Old 02-23-2007, 03:56 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Shaun! Welcome to you, and all of the new members and lurkers who have come outta the woodwork! All 3 of your questions have already been answered, but I've heard The DownUnder folks still need approval from their respective insurance folks. Easy answer:

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Old 02-23-2007, 04:18 AM   #170 (permalink)
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Does it have all the functions of the DX7 and can I get one for my JR 3810?
Has anyone a picture of the module on a TX?

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Old 02-23-2007, 04:32 AM   #171 (permalink)
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Hi John! Welcome to FlyingGiants!!

I'll let the Spektrum folks answe the 3810 question.

Regarding functions of the DX7, I think we're comparing apples to oranges as one is a transmitter with varying functions, and the other is a plug in component that will convert signaling from 72mhz signal to 2.4mhz. Crew, please pop in if I'm missing something.

Thanks for the question NAW, hope to see more of ya!
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:40 AM   #172 (permalink)
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Woohoo.. Now I can keep my wuvley 9xII AND have spectrum!
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:41 AM   #173 (permalink)
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I am so glad Futaba spent so much time and research dollars on the MZ and is getting left in the dust by JR!!
I can promise you this..JR hasn't left Futaba in the dust! In fact what are you talking about? JR doesn't own Spectrum!

Futaba & JR are both great! I've owned JR in the past and have a 14 MZ now both AWESOME TX's..

I am just so glad the direction they are ALL going in! I think we are witnessing a new day in RC TX Technology! I am glad to be a part of it and the Flying Giants!

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Spektrum information on module systems says that FutabaŽ radios output a maximum of 8 channels via the PPM stream. The 12Z-14MZ in PPM put out 12 channels with updated software. Does the AR9000 receiver see nine channels with a 12Z or 14MZ?
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Spektrum information on module systems says that FutabaŽ radios output a maximum of 8 channels via the PPM stream. The 12Z-14MZ in PPM put out 12 channels with updated software. Does the AR9000 receiver see nine channels with a 12Z or 14MZ?

No it doesn't, just 8 channels and yes, it's because of the PPM stream.
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I couldn't find it. I e-mailed my bud I fly with and he agreed that it didn't support failsafe. But hey we all want to know! All this is happening so fast. So maybe in a few days it will all be understood after I read and talk to others at the club about it! I think it is great! I love to be able to fly and not fear the board!

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I'm not sure if I'll get all the questions here, so if I miss one ask again if you would.

First, in regards to fail safe. You must set the Tx in PPM mode, so fail safe in the Tx will not be available, however Spektrum receivers store the fail safe positions during binding. So they have fail safe, but it works differently than your current system. For the AR7000 Receiver (and most other Spektrum receivers) (which is what comes with the DX7) it is set so that the throttle channel fail safe position is stored during the binding process and all other channels are set to hold last position in the event of signal loss. This we call Smart Safe.

The new AR9000 Receiver has 2 modes available. It has the Smart Safe as one option, which to set this you bind the Receiver normally (leaving the bind plug in the Receiver until it completes the binding process). It also has a 'conventional' mode where all channels will be set to fail safe and the positions are stored during binding. To get into this mode, after you power up the Receiver with the bind plug installed, the light begins to flash. Before you turn on the Tx in bind mode, you remove the bind plug from the Receiver and then power up the Tx in bind mode. In both cases you will need to hold the channels in the fail safe positions desired through the whole binding procedure. In Smart Safe mode, only the throttle channel will be set to fail safe, in conventional mode all channels will be set to fail safe. And that applies only to the AR9000 Receiver.

The module systems are DSM2 technology, they are not compatible with DSM1 receivers, so the AR6000/BR6000 for the DX6 will not work with the module systems.

The module systems do not have the model match function, that is a function in the programming of the DX7 Tx and is not possible with the module systems, since the TX's do not have this function.

In regards to the Futaba being 8 channel, that is correct. Futaba systems only output 8 PPM channels, and with the Spektrum system you must set the Tx to PPM. Therefore only 8 channels are available at this time.

In regards to speed, the Spektrum modules speed is the same or faster than existing PCM systems, but it is slower than Spektrum systems built from the ground up such as the DX7 and any future systems that may be developed.

I hope that answers most of the questions.

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50 year, 20 years, my point still stands.
If mishandled, as you propose with your scenario in which the module packaging is inadequate, a telescoping antenna will bend and potentially break by being sat on, collision with other objects, collision with propeller (who hasn't almost done that?!), and in some case even bent while extending or collapsing. After all, it makes a great lightning rod as well.

Another downside is that a collapsable antenna can lend itself to be problematic if the user/operator does not remember to extend the antenna - which can result in a dangerous crash.
Exactly right! Changing the Rf module is all you're really doing. So what if it comes with a different antenna. I bet they have made the connectors plenty tough enough. This technology has been used in industrial applications for a lot longer than in RC, including the remote aerials....
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:18 AM   #178 (permalink)
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I think this is wonderful . Do you know if this is going to be retro to 8uap and 1024 systems ??? Some of us have been on the bandwagon awhile and there is lots of this stuff around . I went out immediately and bought one of these Spectrum systems thinking we were going to be at least a couple of yrs before the adaption so as to sell lots of the new systems . Shows what thinking will do for you !!! ha ha Thanks mefly4fun
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I think this is wonderful . Do you know if this is going to be retro to 8uap and 1024 systems ??? Some of us have been on the bandwagon awhile and there is lots of this stuff around . I went out immediately and bought one of these Spectrum systems thinking we were going to be at least a couple of yrs before the adaption so as to sell lots of the new systems . Shows what thinking will do for you !!! ha ha Thanks mefly4fun

Yes, to my understanding they will have a system for the 8U.
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Will they bring out a Tx module for the Futaba 9Z ?
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