FlyingGiants Exclusive! Introducing The Futaba 12FG, Modules & More!

[3dubya]

One word

Dang!!!!

friggen awsome....

[Tor]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Boulder
	Yep Benny, That's the way I remember it.

Yes, but PCM-G3 is faster than PCM and PPM.

Installing a module that communicates with the TX using PPM is a step in the wrong direction.

I annoys me that Futaba does not provide this information. If it indeed use PPM, one might just aswell choose Spectrum modules.

[50%plane]

WOW! What an awsome announcement! Thanks Max for posting this. I can't wait to upgrade my 9C.


50%

[crhammond]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Tor
	Yes, but PCM-G3 is faster than PCM and PPM. Installing a module that communicates with the TX using PPM is a step in the wrong direction. I annoys me that Futaba does not provide this information. If it indeed use PPM, one might just aswell choose Spectrum modules.

I thought the post BAX made back to me was pretty clear for the 12Z/14MZ... it is native FASST - which is totally different from PPM and PCM. The shape of the "module" does not look like it simply replaces the current module either.

If you want to know on the other series radios I bet if you post on the RCU Futaba support forum they will answer. It would be nice if they did that here on the giants... but I have always had really good support and fast responses on their forum on RCU.

Maybe someone can post int he Futaba fliers club too? I am still waiting for my registration.

Anyway - Toledo will be very interesting for sure. I bet JR will have something as well. Soon we're gonna be overwhelmed with choices!

[Tor]

	Quote: Originally Posted by crhammond
	I thought the post BAX made back to me was pretty clear for the 12Z/14MZ... it is native FASST

I don't see that at all. No mentioning of native anywhere. I'll ask my question in your thead on RCU.

	Quote: Originally Posted by ORIGINAL: Bax
	You'll only have to plug in the module and you'll be on the 2.4 FASST system. You'll be able to use all of the FASST airplane receivers with your transmitter.

[notorious_benny]

Shiny new twin cylinder motor ........... $2600

Big shiny comp-arf extra .............. $4000

10 high torque digital servos ................ $1400

carbon propellor ....................... $170

Being immune from being shot down by the geriatric pensioner who shares your frequency ................................. priceless.

Disclaimer. The above prices are approximations in Australian dollars.

[Tweaker]

Well if PPM causes the channel limit to be 8 i think it's obvious they are not using PPM, The picture of the new radio clearly shows PCM G3 PCM 2048 2.4 GHZ.Later it says modules turn 12z 14mz into FASST 2048 2.4 GHZ with more features than the 12FG offers. I assume the 9C may be limited to 1024 resolution as that is what it transmits. I even thought I read the new module uses PCM.

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by KatManDEW
	Will there be a micro receiver for indoor aircraft?

The 6-channel RX that comes with the 6EX is tiny, barely big enough for the plugs. It wll work fine in a park flier.

[KatManDEW]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
	The 6-channel RX that comes with the 6EX is tiny, barely big enough for the plugs. It wll work fine in a park flier.

Thanks for the info.

[Tor]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Tweaker
	Well if PPM causes the channel limit to be 8 i think it's obvious they are not using PPM.

Actually they added 12 channel PPM support with the latest software upgrade. Now, have anyone heard of a 12 channel PPM receiver???

Hmmm - the plot thickens!

Again, if using PPM, I will get a Spectrum module just in spite!

[Karl540]

I want one

[Kiwi]

Tor,

I'm not the full bullet on all the features with the new system but I have some idea of whats in it.

The 14MZ and 12Z modules apparently will use the native Futaba pin out so your going to have 2048 resolution on either PPM or PCM. I dont see what all the fuss is really about as both a extremely fine resolution. Correct me if I'm wrong here but the 2048 and 1024 refers to the maximum steps recognised within the radio of each of the gimbals. The modules in the 12 and 14 are currently able to use that and transmit it. Thats why if you cut back your ATV your really killing your resolution. That has nothing to do with whats being transmitted, it just means you have narrowed the amount of steps you can send to the servo. In short a measure of how fine your contol can be.

Funny thing is most of todays top servos are only good for 900 or so steps. Work that one out.

Now latency is an altogether other story. Thats the time it takes for the signal to be recognised, digitized and transmitted. PPM is raw and fast. PCM is packets, coded, shaken and rattled and transmitted. If the numbers dont match you get a lock out or fail safe.

The G3 Futaba system got PCM to outstanding transmission times. Twice as fast as the conventional PPM in fact.

So the 2.4 system should have reduced latency, faster data processing (2048). I dont see how the other guys system can be better or worse in any way what so ever, plus it will only be an 8 channel system and not 14. If I was that pedantic about it I would buy a 7 channel and save some funds.

Guys we will try to get a Futaba rep in here to help answer your questions in much better detail but please remember these guys are home tonight, its Easter Friday here tomorrow so thats a holiday and likely a black hole for information as well.

If however we locate a guru lets give him a chance to come in and answer your concerns accordingly.

Kiwi