Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter

StrangeGager · 01-24-2007, 09:24 AM

This is Bad Ass!!!!http://www.crazyaviation.com/movies/CA_SU-30.wmv Enjoy

CSpaced · 01-24-2007, 09:57 AM

Damn - thats pretty manouverable! At one point I thought it was going to do a back flip!

bosshoss · 01-24-2007, 11:40 AM

It is awesome watching the thrust vectored manuevers this and the Raptor can do.

In a dogfight , do these manuevers have an advantage or are they just for a power a show?? I mean if it slows down to 3D like that....is it going ot get a siewinder or equiv slammed into it??

Just because it can do it, does it make it an operational or tactical sense???

CSpaced · 01-24-2007, 11:52 AM

I think in a traditional dogfight you are too close to use missiles and it is a case of who can get their nose guns pointed on who first. If that is the case then I would think thrust vectoring is definately an advantage?..

BoneDoc · 01-24-2007, 12:37 PM

Awesome huckin'!

FWIW, in real combat, it's all about the range of your radar. The F 15 for example, will see the enemy, lock radar, fire, and bolt out even before the enemy sees them on the radar.

... try to beat that

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wizard · 01-24-2007, 12:47 PM

I just want a ride. That would be better than any roller coaster in the world.

DKjens · 01-24-2007, 12:51 PM

What amazes me when watching this airplane, is that when it's in a situation where none of its surfaces are developing lift and the tail isn't pointed to the ground, like in the flat spin at the beginning of the clip. it's not dropping out of the sky.

These airplanes have a very high wing loading, but it still performs maneuvers as if in slow motion, as if it's very light; that's what blows my mind.

ilovemetro · 01-24-2007, 01:34 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by DKjens
	What amazes me when watching this airplane, is that when it's in a situation where none of its surfaces are developing lift and the tail isn't pointed to the ground, like in the flat spin at the beginning of the clip. it's not dropping out of the sky. These airplanes have a very high wing loading, but it still performs maneuvers as if in slow motion, as if it's very light; that's what blows my mind.

yeah that flatspin was sweet

Docvan46 · 01-24-2007, 01:53 PM

Hey Guys:

Take a look at the last few seconds of the video. It looks like the only 'thrust vectoring' the SU-30 could do would be via the 'turkey feathers'. My bet is the canards make the really outrageous maneuverability possible. Watch them during the really 'nonaerodynamic' maneuvers.

I could be wrong, but it's just my opinion!

Docvan

wizard · 01-24-2007, 03:10 PM

If you watch close at about 2:25 in the clip you can see the nozzles move.

Docvan46 · 01-24-2007, 03:25 PM

Wizard:

Yep, saw it! When you're right, you're right. The nozzles are not like the Raptor's, but they do move. With the canards, and thrust vectoring; that thing can really do suprising stuff!

Docvan

Docvan

FlyguyXII · 01-24-2007, 07:15 PM

the raptor has 2d thrust vectoring for pitch and roll where as the su-30 has 3d thrust vectoring for pitch roll and yaw. that thing would beat the snot out of the 22

01-24-2007, 09:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
StrangeGager Team Red Balls Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fenton, MI Posts: 2	Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter This is Bad Ass!!!!http://www.crazyaviation.com/movies/CA_SU-30.wmv Enjoy

01-24-2007, 09:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
CSpaced Outlaw Slayer! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oak Ridge, NC Age: 31 Posts: 2,382 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter Damn - thats pretty manouverable! At one point I thought it was going to do a back flip! __________________ I'm a Crack head! <----Click!

01-24-2007, 11:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
bosshoss Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Schiller Park ,IL Posts: 700 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter It is awesome watching the thrust vectored manuevers this and the Raptor can do. In a dogfight , do these manuevers have an advantage or are they just for a power a show?? I mean if it slows down to 3D like that....is it going ot get a siewinder or equiv slammed into it?? Just because it can do it, does it make it an operational or tactical sense???

01-24-2007, 11:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
CSpaced Outlaw Slayer! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oak Ridge, NC Age: 31 Posts: 2,382 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter I think in a traditional dogfight you are too close to use missiles and it is a case of who can get their nose guns pointed on who first. If that is the case then I would think thrust vectoring is definately an advantage?.. __________________ I'm a Crack head! <----Click!

01-24-2007, 12:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
BoneDoc Closet Jesus Freak Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Age: 32 Posts: 633	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter Awesome huckin'! FWIW, in real combat, it's all about the range of your radar. The F 15 for example, will see the enemy, lock radar, fire, and bolt out even before the enemy sees them on the radar. ... try to beat that .


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wizard It will fly!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington, Indiana Age: 44 Posts: 7,722 Blog Entries: 12 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter I just want a ride. That would be better than any roller coaster in the world. __________________ Prevent Darwinism become a paramedic!!! Never try to teach a pig to sing! It wastes your time and it annoys the pig!!! Powered by Jim Beam

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DKjens DKjens Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 741	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter What amazes me when watching this airplane, is that when it's in a situation where none of its surfaces are developing lift and the tail isn't pointed to the ground, like in the flat spin at the beginning of the clip. it's not dropping out of the sky. These airplanes have a very high wing loading, but it still performs maneuvers as if in slow motion, as if it's very light; that's what blows my mind. __________________ DKjens aka Cock Diesel Composite-ARF.com - Krill-Model.com Desert Aircraft - Kroma Engines - EVO-Engines Donald's Hobby Center - WesternHobbies.com

01-24-2007, 01:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Docvan46 Laughter helps! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gainesville, Florida, USA Age: 62 Posts: 94	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter Hey Guys: Take a look at the last few seconds of the video. It looks like the only 'thrust vectoring' the SU-30 could do would be via the 'turkey feathers'. My bet is the canards make the really outrageous maneuverability possible. Watch them during the really 'nonaerodynamic' maneuvers. I could be wrong, but it's just my opinion! Docvan

01-24-2007, 03:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
wizard It will fly!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington, Indiana Age: 44 Posts: 7,722 Blog Entries: 12 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter If you watch close at about 2:25 in the clip you can see the nozzles move. __________________ Prevent Darwinism become a paramedic!!! Never try to teach a pig to sing! It wastes your time and it annoys the pig!!! Powered by Jim Beam

01-24-2007, 03:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Docvan46 Laughter helps! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gainesville, Florida, USA Age: 62 Posts: 94	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter Wizard: Yep, saw it! When you're right, you're right. The nozzles are not like the Raptor's, but they do move. With the canards, and thrust vectoring; that thing can really do suprising stuff! Docvan Docvan

01-24-2007, 07:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
FlyguyXII New at Cinnci the TP ShowTime Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belleville, Mi Age: 24 Posts: 362	Re: Full Scale Huckin a Russian Fighter the raptor has 2d thrust vectoring for pitch and roll where as the su-30 has 3d thrust vectoring for pitch roll and yaw. that thing would beat the snot out of the 22

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