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Old 11-04-2009, 02:24 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Default Re: Blown up to 124" Ziroli Corsair Build

Someone who installed a Moki radial in this forum not so long ago mentioned they need quite a lot of maintenance e.g oiling the cam followers etc prior to every flying session. This may be of interest to you when making a final decision.
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Someone who installed a Moki radial in this forum not so long ago mentioned they need quite a lot of maintenance e.g oiling the cam followers etc prior to every flying session. This may be of interest to you when making a final decision.


You just have to do the oiling once per flying session,Flew a Balsa USA stearman Moki 250 at 54 LB's and it would hover at half throttle, awesome airplane!
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"You just have to do the oiling once per flying session"

um yeah thats what I said
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:41 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I would like a radial but the cost is a bit higher than I can justify. I don't understand other than demand why they cost so much more tha twins or even 4 cylinders. The Moki 250 only puts out 15 hp and the 400 25 hp but it is way up there in cost. A 3W 210 dual electronic ignition twin is almost 21 hp and is heavy. I think that is what I will end up having to go with and a dummy radial up front. Here is the Dummy Radial I custom built for the Corsair when I had my 3W 200 twin. The prop shaft hole is already cut out for the 210. I included a pic of part of my wing joiner system but remember I still have to add one more receiver so it will be 9" long plus the spar will be 19" long. The receivers are welded together for ease in initial alignment and attachment. Also here is my fuel jug that is 55+ oz. and it is big. I have to try and fit that in behind the engine. It will fit but only after some removal of some of the cross braces that were used to keep the crutch in the proper shape until the formers were permanently glued in. I won't have to remove the hole cross member but it will need to have a concave area for the tank and foam to rest on.

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Subscribed. Love the warbirds too!
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How did you make the dummy its very good. And what was it made from ? fiberglass?
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"You just have to do the oiling once per flying session"

um yeah thats what I said

My point is that you made it sound like a big chore and its no more effort than fueling the airplane or charging a battery, unless you cowl it in, but I can't see that happening at least for me because if I spend that kind of money you can bet it will be visible and accessible. You ever fly a bird where there is a distinctive change in power at every click of the stick? And sound that good?
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MODE 1,

It was made out of plastic from a kit. I like it because it is a 3 dimensional engine instead of just the front half. I still need to put the exhaust stacks on all the cylinders. Here are a few pic's of my custom cowl being made by a couple in Austrailia. They are adding all the detail right into the fiberglass. The F4U-5N had a completely different cowl than the rest of the models as you will see. They are also making me the appropriate canopy for thia model. Plus I haven't ever seen a Corsair with the radial hanging out. That was kind of a mute point don't you think. This isn't a Stearman.

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Old 11-06-2009, 02:34 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Yeah it was pointless thats why I didnt respond. And I feel sure no one would want to remove the cowl every session just to oil some rockers. Anyway its just a model there has to be some financial limits before you go too far buying the latest and greatest. The shear presence of the model will more than make up for the other engine options youve highlighted.

Your doing a great job there Barry. Keep them pictures coming.

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One more thing. Are you planning on having a sliding canopy or permanently fixed? As a matter of fact just out of interest how far are you planning on taking the scale effect detail to?
I know it's early days yet. I built a little 100" Jug several years back, the panel lines, smoke, oil stains and rivets really consumed a great deal of time but the overall effect afterwards was very impressive.
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Sweet.

Good luck on the build. I had a 93" that I recently sold. It was an awesome plane all around. Flew really, really scale with a G 62. Nose weight was necessary, but not as much as you think. BTW...that tail is gonna waggle like a puppy dogs.

My opionion, go with a 2 or 4 banger from 3W. The 170 or 220. There works of art that pull like a mule.
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Well since I own Canopy Rails for Warbirds I guess I better wouldn't you say? I intend on going to as many events as I can within my budget and promote my rails and show them off in my Corsair. Here is my website: www.canopyrailsforwarbirds.com. I might make a bigger aluminum set for this plane so it looks even better than my standard rails. As far as detail, I plan on going all the way. I figured about a year just for the detail work. It will be weathered and battle worn when I'm done with her. The name of the Plane is "Annie-Mo" if interested Goggle search it and see what you find. She was Guy Bordelon's plane and he flew her in the Korean "POLICE WAR ACTION". This plane will probably have $10,000.00+ invested in her not counting time. Almost everything is custom made just for her. The fully detailed cockpit will be awesome when it's finished. There will be bezels on all the instruments made from glass. This will be backlit with a red LED. It will have all the functioning lights of the real McCoy.

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