2008 Imac basic, how do you do #7

[3DBatixkid]

Airbike,

The wind correction can be done using rudder and elevator. Remember that the heading of the aircraft can be at any angle, but the flight path must remain unchanged. If you are turning from downwind to upwind, you will need to pull harder on the elevator at the apex of the turn to keep the radius constant. The bank angle however cannot change. As would be done in any other maneuver, 1 point per 10 degrees is deducted for bank angle change, and/or too shallow or too steep of a bank.

[flyin woodbutcher]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 3DBatixkid
	If you fly like this, you will only be a fair, maybe good IMAC pilot. To be a great IMAC pilot, EVERY maneuver has priority. Make them all perfect and excellent, and you will succeed that much more.

Umph, what a slam!!!!!!!!!! but so true every manuver is important to do correctly.

[Vic3D]

That wasn't a slam. I know Zak, he's a good guy, unlike you FWB.

Zak you're right. I do practice every maneuver as much as the other ones, especially when you get to higher classes. You would know, you fly Unlimited (wish I could). But I guess it could actually come down to the aerobatic turn in Basic where everything has lower K factors. Good call.

[3DBatixkid]

Easy fellas, was not my intention to slam vic (hes a good guy as well). I am however very passionate about IMAC and thought I would voice my opinion about it. I love to see people getting in to the sport that will hopefully share the same passion as I do. There have been lots of contests where the final score is less than one point separating 1st and 2nd. Diligence in being practiced at all the maneuvers can pay off.

[bubbagates]

One thing I've learned in IMAC is to be consistent in all maneuvers no matter the "K" factor.

It's that simple and that hard all at the same time.

I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but the important part of the circle is it must remain symetrical and the bank angle and altitude cannot change and use the same roll rate coming out as you did going in. Do whatever you need to do to do those things.

As an example, if you decided to fly it slow, the plane is literally going to be doing it in KE all the way around and is going to look like it. That's perfectly acceptable as long as the things I mentioned above are kept.

Remember, you are most likely going to be judged by someone in a much higher class and the've been there and done that and can easily see every little thing you are not doing correctly.

If they and you have the time right after you land, the best thing is to ask the judges, everyone I have ever had judge me was more than willing give advice. Listen to these folks, they can really help

[tman]

	Quote: Originally Posted by epoweredrc
	Thanks everyone, I left right after posted but did since see the video for 2008. thanks for the replies. I have another question, how big of a box are you supposed to fly ? are you supposed to fly it close in or can you fly it long? I only been around pattern flyers SPA and they fly a big box all way from left to right of the feild. Thanks

Although there is no "box" in IMAC there is a score for Airspace Control. It is a 10 - 0 score with a different K Factor for each class. The bigger you fly your box the lower that score should be.

[mflander]

Okay tman, that makes sense, but I think the next obvious question would be how small does the box need to be to obtain the maximum possible score?

[exeter_acres]

IMAC Rules
http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/...aerobatics.pdf

	Quote:
	The following standard will be used for accessing the pilot’s performance in maintaining control and awareness of the aerobatic airspace and placing figures in the airspace in a manner that allow the figures to be optimally judges. The highest standard for Airspace Control will be the pilot that exhibits a significant ability to control the location of the aircraft inside the airspace, relative to the judges, which results in a tight footprint and has the aircraft such that it can be optimally judged at all times. The pilot that exhibits excellent airspace control should receive a ten (10). The lowest standard for Airspace Control will be the pilot that exhibits a poor ability to control the location of the aircraft inside the airspace, relative to the judges, which results in an excessively large footprint and has the aircraft consistently so far away as to be difficult to properly judge. The pilot that exhibits very poor airspace control should receive a zero (0). Pilots exhibiting airspace control within the range of these two standards will be graded with a range of possible scores from ten (10) to zero (0) in whole point increments.

[mflander]

That also makes it perfectly clear why bigger is better.... lol. For your airplane I mean....

[JimC-MD]

In the one competition that I was in last year, airspace control, or the lack there of was the biggest shock to me. Many pilots were flying the end maneuvers so far out at each end it made it easier to hide corrections. They would benefit from the distance (imo) and accept the lower ASC score with the low K factor. I only saw scores of 5 or 10 with no "detail" but I did not see every score. Where were the 7s, 3s, 8s etc?

If airspace control is as important for flying locations and scale presentation as it would seem, this score should be weighted higher. (imo) I think this would be an improvement in the spectator appeal as well. Someone taking 12 seconds or so to fly a loop that is very large is not as fun to watch as a tight program. If, for example, the scale plane will perform a loop in 1200 feet of airspace, a 30% plane should do it in 400 feet or so. Does that make sense? These maneuvers are soooooo large that I find myself thinking "work it" and "show me something". You know, like when you are watching a full scaler bang it out. I guess that is why the freestyle events tend to be crowd favorites. More activity over a shorter time makes for more fun in viewing.

I know that I am likely in the minority on this view. I will continue to fly this year (last year was a taste) but I will work to keep my routine tight and "active" as that is the "view" that I like. I will take the scores I get for my flying style.

As an aside, I have been watching the vids of Wayne flying the sequences on the sim. They are pretty tight for the most part and are fun to watch. What I have seen at the competitions that I have attended are much larger and slower. zzzzzzzzz

[Yakov]

	Quote: Originally Posted by epoweredrc
	I have another question, how big of a box are you supposed to fly ? are you supposed to fly it close in or can you fly it long? I only been around pattern flyers SPA and they fly a big box all way from left to right of the feild. Thanks

Keep in mind there is a DEAD LINE that is 100 feet out from the pilot station. You are not suppose to come any closer then 100 feet from yourself. If you cross that line the judges can warn you, take a deduction or ask you to land if you repetedly cross the line. It is a Safety Issue not a punishment.

[bubbagates]

You can always fly the sequence slower. I learned a little while ago after hearing it from several judges and at different contests, if I would only slow down a bit and not make the sequence so large I would be much better off so I started to fly it tighter (i.e. smaller space) and then I'm not near as prone to make a mistake and my scores improved quite a bit. Yep, it's harder to hide the mistakes because I'm in closer on the ends but at the same time I can stop a roll right where it needs to be and yada yada yada