2008 Riverside Spring IMAC & Freestyle

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What a great plan guys. It's good to see frestyle as part of the IMAC event again. I am one who believes it should be included with every contest. Even in the full scale world the frestyle is part of it. I would love to be there with you all.

I gotta go spend time with the old boring Red Bull Air Race. Poor me. It's a lousy job but somebody has to do it.

Have Fun!!!!!

Steve Nelson

[Reza]

I'm in for FreeStyle too! I guess I will be coming with two planes, Let's see how many I will be returning home LOL

[lazyboyflyer]

26 days to go! Go sign up!

[Jim Woodward]

[quote=lazyboyflyer;423681] The Pilot / Panel, Sound and ACS will not be scored.

Hi Guys,

I hope you have a good contest. When I lived in CA I was not flying IMAC at the time, but flew at this field for a few pattern events and enjoyed it (... except when it rains and the road gets really slick ).

Just out of curiosity, why are 3 elements of the scoring criteria not being scored? The pilot/panel part doesn't reallly bother me, but the Sound score can actually make a difference in a round tally, and the ACS score is K-factored per class, affecting the higher classes the most. These elements make a difference over the course of the contest and help differentiate pilot skill.

If you can shed some light on this decision that would be great, or share issues others may not be aware of. Just for instance regarding sound - if not judged - do you "self-police" and watch for howling props and such, or just let the whole issue go? Anything in place of ACS there (maybe club/field limitations?). Just wondering why elements that affect score are not being used, and thinking that when some of the SW pilots go to the Nats they may be at a disadvantage if not accustomed to this criteria.
Thanks,
Jim

[lazyboyflyer]

Hi Jim, The reason why we decided not to bother with it, is some of the judges in the Southwest region have not accepted to score the sound and ACS. They'll just score you a 5 for sound and 5 for ACS, no matter how well you maintain both. It just isn't fair to the pilots that work hard on it and don't get the score for it, so why bother.

[Jim Woodward]

Hi Lazyboyflyer,

I appreciate your explanation, sympathize, and offer another angle; perhaps it is not fair to the pilot that works on each criteria, but is is definately not fair to the judges who do seek to apply the criteria, but are (in a way) bullyied out of the chance to do so by the judges who blatantly will not judge to them.

Just to say what is rarely said - if a CD recognizes that particular judges are knowlingly disregarding certain judging criteria, those people should not be allowed to judge as this will only create contest-to-contest or regional biasis which is exactly what the juding certification programs seek to abolish.

By disallowing these elements to be scored a bandaid may have been placed on other problems. Addressing the local concerns and creating a fun atmosphere are certainly key elements of a good contest, keeping enthusiasm up, getting people to return and hopefully bring new people with them, and should be considered, but so are national contest standardizations. Its a tough balance, but perhaps the folks who choose not to apply this criteria should not be allowed to judge even if they are some of the most experienced persons.

These are just some thoughts. All of us contest goers do truly appreciate the hard work and deicison CD's make to host contests.
Thanks,
Jim W.

[lazyboyflyer]

25 days to go! Be there!

[madmax]

COUNT ME IN FELLAS!!! I'm comin'! Python and all. Reza, you flying basic? I'll hand it to you son!!

[lazyboyflyer]

Awesome Max, I hope you fly the Freestyle too.

[1bwana1]

This is going to be one fun IMAC! Freestyle, great pilots, and now Max is coming too. I know Reza will rock the Freestyle, and do well with the straight lines too. Max you flying both Basic and Freestyle with the Python? That I gotta see.

I owe Max a 12 pack of beer from last years Vegas IMAC. I will officially pay him at this event by providing a case of good brew for Saturday, after the last sequence is flown. Not only that, you guys can vote on your favorite beer (within reason) and I will buy that brand. Let the voting begin!

[Reza]

Thanks Steve you are too kind

Max,

I don't like first places from top, so I am thinking about flying Advanced, that way I may get a first from the Bottom LOL

Python for FreeStyle and QQ-Yak 120" for Precision

Look forward to it guys. Should be interesting and nerve wrecking first time flying IMAC in ADVANCED!

[bodywerks]

	Quote: Originally Posted by 1bwana1
	This is going to be one fun IMAC! Freestyle, great pilots, and now Max is coming too. I know Reza will rock the Freestyle, and do well with the straight lines too. Max you flying both Basic and Freestyle with the Python? That I gotta see. I owe Max a 12 pack of beer from last years Vegas IMAC. I will officially pay him at this event by providing a case of good brew for Saturday, after the last sequence is flown. Not only that, you guys can vote on your favorite beer (within reason) and I will buy that brand. Let the voting begin!

Widmer Heffeweizen
Smithwicks Irish Ale
Czech Pilsner Urquel
Shiner Bock or Blonde
Karl Strauss Amber, Heffe, or Woodie Gold