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Old 11-03-2008, 02:56 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Default Re: CA Models - PassPort Delux ARC

Hi Ryan,

Here are a few pics of an install I did in Don's Genesis, with the Hyde AR? mount, and an 1/8" spacer. In this same fuselage, the Budd mount which requires 6 3/8" spacing from the firewall to the spinner backplate, would not fit. Now, on my PassPort, the Budd/YS installation is again, too long (or firewall too close for this particular engine mount).

I guess there are some Hyde mounts that use the 6 3/8" spacing, and some that use a shorter spacing. I happen to have a new Budd mount to use though and will do so.

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Old 11-03-2008, 07:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
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This is mine, just started building on friday. is the deluxe kit.
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:43 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Tuny - thanks for the firewall email. I'll post some pictures later. Hopefully I am painting this Saturday.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:28 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The fuselage is now ready to fly minus paint and rudder hinging, which will wait till after paint. Instead of knocking out the firewall I decided to install the motor and see just how far out the engine was going to be. What threw off my initial assesment is that the firewall has more Right Thrust than the nose of the plane has. So at first, I was thinking that I was going to be 3/8" out too far. After installing everything, it is only about 1/8" more forward than I would like, so that is good enough for me to go and fly. If things need changing after the first flight, I'll think about it then.

No pics of the wings, but they are now RTF minus a final sanding and monocote
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:31 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Due to the shape of the chin cowl, the YS regulator actually sticks out further than the chinny. That is why there is an asymetric hole cut out on the front of the chin cowl to let air in. Because of R-thrust, more clearance was needed on the one side of the chin cowl than the other. Also, the header needed some swing-room so that is why the relief hole is there. The pipe stand-off is just a light ply/balsa shelf for the Hatori mount to sit on. It is 7/8" tall.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:40 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Here are a few more pics of the nose ring and anhedral stabs. I made some nifty servo boxes for the Futaba 9650 but haven't installed them yet.

While I was measuring up my Osmose stabs to mirror the serovo installation on the PassPort anhedrals, it became aparent that the hinge lines were different. For instance, one photo shows the monocoted Osmose stabs with a straight-edge laying in the hinge line. The hinge line is straight. There is another photo with the PassPort stabs, which shows that the hinge line looks swept "forward" a fair amount. Has anyone else noticed this?
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PS - wing incidences are set to 0.25 positive, and the stab pins look close enough to "zero" to go out and fly.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:38 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Yes, 1bwana1 my Pass Port is electric. I am currently running a Hacker 14XL inrunner with a hacker 99 spin jedi ESC. I am not sure if you get the K factor every month or not, but I was on the front cover of it and it shows what I have in it. My batteries are 5 cell, 5200 thunder power prolite packs.

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Old 11-05-2008, 09:40 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I must tell you guys who are planning to go glow with this plane. You can if you want to but this airplane is really meant for electric. I know that it can use glow and electric, but I am telling you the airplane will not last line with a big YS in there. It needs the electrified power for maximum performance.

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Old 11-05-2008, 09:52 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Hi Matt,

The plane is so soft as arrived from the factory that I wouldn't even fly electric without stiffening it some. Regarding longevity with the YS, I doubt that anyone who has ran YS has boxed-in the fuselage like I have done. If someone has done all this and the plane has still disentegrated, please let me know. From the nosering to the wing adjusters the plane is as stiff as the Osmose I had. To my hand, the plane seems fine. I'll keep an eye on it though for sure.

Matt, do your elevator hing lines sweep forward too?
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- also - I don't mind flying electric, its the buying batteries, charging batteries, and the potential to burn the house down that bothers me
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Old 11-06-2008, 06:30 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Jim your build seems to be going great, The plane looks awesome. after seeing Chip fly the passport at Nats it was prob. one of my favorite to watch fly. It really presents very well.

Is yours equipped with the split rudder option?

cant wait to see it fly at Tangerine.

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Old 11-07-2008, 08:31 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Thanks Chris - straight rudder, will have servos for elevators in the tail.

Here are some shots of the tape lines. This is going to be similar to my Osmose, but with more color flares along the top of the turtle deck. I nstill eed to tape the bottom lines of the plane, but ran out of energy late last night. The tape lines are dead-asz parallel to each other and when you look from the rudder to the nose on both sides, all lines, radii, and angles match. This is close enough for me. The plane is HUGE. It takes a long time and patience to lay out the tape lines, and my scheme is simple compared to the CA scheme. I can't work on the plane tonight, so I'll finish masking Saturday morning and begin painting. My plan is to finish the paint job and clear by Saturday night.

ARF or ARC????? FWIW - it cost me $195 to go to Finish Master yesterday and get 4 pints of colors, reducer, acetone, laquer thinner, degreaser, fine line tape, tack-cloths, hoodies, etc. It would have been more if the plane had not arrived already white. Painting is very expensive by the time you add up the actual costs, and your time to try and get it right. While the scheme is not that complex, my primary goal this time around is to "one-time" shoot each color and ultimately, a nicely wet-out clear, that is not too heavy
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:02 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Jim, I just talked to Nat today and he told me that you called him ( I Believe ?). Yes, I believe all of the elevator hinge lines are forward for the anheadral in the stab. I know for electric though you do not need to stiffen it up at all. It is actually stiffer than the genesis which is good. As I said before though if you are going glow then you do need to stiffen it.

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