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Old 08-21-2006, 03:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is a governer something i should look into for a raptor .30?

I can setup throttle curves, but i do have a tendancy to overspeed when coming down and using negative pitch....

Does the difference justify the cost? Im not really 3ding yet... but will be in that arena soon. Im semi-comfortable inverted and get alot of sim time, so im not to far off....

Should i just wait till i upgrade to a .50 next spring?
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Old 08-21-2006, 04:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know a number of people who 3D their heli's without the use of a governor and they run great. I myself run the Futaba GV-1 in my heli's. From what you have described it doesn't sound like you would gain much benefit from a governor at this stage. Once you get into flying 3D you will have a better idea of what kind of governor you will need, if you feel you need one.

What I like about the GV-1 is that I can program the head speed to exactly what I want, and it will maintain that speed in all conditions (providing you dont bog down the engine!). Other governors, such as the "RevMax" by Throttle Jockey (I use the word governor loosely) are actually throttle limiters, where you can run a high pitch curve and know you are getting the maximum power out of the engine, but you don't have to worry about overspeeding (They also say there is no lag with the TJ, although I've not noticed one with the GV-1).

Check out these sites for more info:

http://www.modelavionics.com/ (RevMax)
http://www.futabarc.com/radioaccys/futm1001.html (GV-1)
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The RevMax is a great limiter and will definitely help with your over speeding condition. A governor is worth the money and you will notice a big improvement in consist ant head speed.

If you want an extremely versatile and easy to setup governor, check out http://www.aerospire.com/index.html. The MultiGov allows you to set the gov for different head speeds in all three modes and the biggest feature is, you punch in the head speed you want and that's it. No more tachs. You can also use it as a governor or limiter in each flight mode separately.
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That thing sounds pretty cool, it's the best of both worlds in one unit (governor and limiter). By the way, you can punch in the head speed on the GV-1 as well in the same way.
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Haven't used the GV-1 so I can't comment on how it works. The MultiGov is very nice. Here's how I run mine...

normal - 1650 gov
idle-1 - 1850 gov
idle-2 - 2000 limiter

It has enough features to tweak anything you want.
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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How do you have your throttle curve set up in idle-2? A friend of mine has the revmax and runs his throttle curve at 100% in idle up.
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Old 08-22-2006, 12:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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That's what great about the revmax. Just drop the percentage in you radio to dial in the perfect headspeed.
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Old 08-22-2006, 12:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Nitrohuffer
That's what great about the revmax. Just drop the percentage in you radio to dial in the perfect headspeed.
Or if you use the MultiGov, just select the exact head speed you want and your done. And no need for a tach!

Most people do set their idle-up at a flat 100% when using a limiter. As long as you can switch out of it quickly if you throw a magnet, there's no problem. I actually run my curve at 100-95-90-95-100.
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Old 08-22-2006, 01:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Motions
Or if you use the MultiGov, just select the exact head speed you want and your done. And no need for a tach!
Same witht the GV-1, this is a common feature now. Although I would still like to tach it to check to see if I am getting the actual head speed I programmed.
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This brings up the question....

What is a safe headspeed for a Raptor .30 v1? It's stock with reinforced wood blades.....

I don't have an optical tach.... i have a standard tach, but im not going to get close enough to use it.....
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You can take your standard tach, put some foam on the back of it and zip tie it vertically to your boom. Switch it on and hover sideways and you can read the output on the tach

The headspeed will depend on the engine, what are you running in there?

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Old 08-22-2006, 03:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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TT .36, on 15% now, will go to at least 20% soon.... Im having fuel availability issues with powermaster 20/20 that i usually run in everything....
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