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Old 12-14-2006, 02:00 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Futaba has not made an announcement. What was posted here was "leaked" by someone.
To be perfectly accurate, Hobbico made the announcement to Team Futaba members. The information was subsequently authorized to be released to persons outside of the Team.

So you are partially correct. Futaba has NOT made any annoucements. Hobbico did. However, since the information was authorized to be released, it is not a leak.
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:12 PM   #27 (permalink)
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We should have our first run of cases here early next week. Providing that these are good and do not require changes, I believe we are ready to send a set to Steve Kaluf and get the AMA's reaction.
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:06 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Jim,

I have a question about your system.

THe DX7 has fixed the latency problems of linking two channels together. (no more delay , ala old futaba). THey claim this is done through re-encoding the data before modulation.

IF your module is using the waveform from the module pinout, where the latency IS present, how/ or will yours fix the latency of linked channels??

OR, am I missing something??

Looking forward to trying yours out.

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Old 12-14-2006, 11:04 PM   #29 (permalink)
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There was a frequency meeting between JR-Spectrum, futaba, and Multiplex-Hitec a few weeks ago where one of the issues is the Futaba spectrum radio equilivent to DX6 could compromise how the JR-Spectrum one will work when finding a link channel.
That would be just great... get "hit" on 2.4ghz because someone else is getting their link going! I'd just stick to 72mhz at that point because we'd be right back to where we are now just with fancier technology. Like someone else already said I can just imagine seeing a board for Futaba and a board for JR! No thanks.

While I find that would be hard to believe I don't rule anything out with technology and companies these days. No one wants to play nice... everyone has their proprietary "thing" and think their way is better than the other guy. It's refreshing that we have as much interoperability in this hobby as we do. Amazing that Futaba or JR don't have some exclusive servo that only works with their receivers. With any other industry it'd probably be the norm.

Look at what Sony and Toshiba are doing with the next gen of DVD players. Either side is unwilling to give in and it's a fight to the death with consumers being the losers the whole way. BetaMax all over again.

I'd had to see that ugliness make it's way into such a big part of the hobby.

Once JR has a 9303 level 2.4 system I'm board. If Futaba does it with the 12mhz I'll jump camp for that. I'm not a fanboy for either, but I want the technology to eliminate the hassles at the field -- not solve some problems but make new ones that are just as bad (if not worse).

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I hope nobody took my post the wrong way. I am a fan of 2.4GHz and my next radio might just be a DX7. But. I am a born skeptic. I do really hope everything works out with little or no problems like some have said. Sometimes though hope doesn't do that much good. Like my Dad used to tell me; "You can hope in one hand and...well you know the rest.
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Futaba already sells a dual receiver + Tx module on 2.4GHz for cars, so it would make a perfect sense for them to stick the same technology in a low end radio and label it as "parkflyer" to test the waters, just like Spektrum did.

I wonder what JR is doing. In my opinion, they must be real pissed that their main distributor (Horizon) is going 2.4GHz with another brand. Or maybe they see the 2.4GHz as a fad that will disappear once planes start crashing on it the same way they do on 72/50/35 MHz.

I'm really not a huge fan of 2.4GHz band myself - it's a free-for-all band with minimal regulation. Now, most of the flying sites don't have any wireless LANs of cordless phones around, but still.... I wonder what would bunch of 2.4GHz video links do to the control signal.

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I think I will go back to AM lol
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It's too bad that when all the 72MHz equipment manufacturers decided to go narrow band, they also didn't decide to incorporate a receiver in the Tx and refuse to transmit if there's already a signal present.

If that had happened, there would be no need for trying to make USB and bluetooth chipsets control R/C planes....

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I agree, I hope all this stuff gets worked out and one product doesnt conflict with another one. IMO this is supposed to alleviate getting shot down, not just another band to get shot down on. If the spectrum has a better resolution, that is a good thing too and a reason for me to switch. I just with the compainies putting their products would stop jacking around and put at least a 9ch out there.
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2.4 GHZ is great. Keep the technology coming!
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It stands to reason that Futaba would not let the 14mz owners radios become passe. So a lot of guys will wait and see. I know a lot of my Futaba flying buddies are doing just that. I am a JR guy ,after making the switch a season and a half ago. My Futaba stuff collects dust or gets borowed out to friends in need.

My DX7 has performed flawlessly, but , if for some reason there is a conflict down the road, I would still have no problem flying on 50mhz, where I and my Pop have been since the 70's.

I love the the way the DX7 links to servos together with no latency. The JR 9303 was better than the Futaba 9C, but the DX7 eliminated it. I have never tried a 14mz, and am told it is almost non-exisitent with that one. So good things are coming of this either way you look at it.

Listen in two generations, some may be flying with implanted chips in thier heads. And we will be old-timers sniffing at it, like the old-timers sniff at the SS technology, now. LOL.

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