Futaba 2.4 GHz FASST FULL RANGE Air System

[GremlinX]

	Quote: Originally Posted by JAS
	I would imagine (please read as MY OPINION) that there will be a 2.4 set-up for the 12 and 14. One step at a time.

Gosh, I would hope so... I have enough catfish weights as it is.. I don't need my 14MZ going to the depths in favor of a new super whamperdyne setup... Is the frequency controlled strictly by the module??? I know nothing about this stuff...

[futurase]

Guys,
As bad as you might want it and I understand that, I do not think you will ever get your simple module for your whatever. Unless Futaba figures out how, Paul Beard (designer of Spektrum) says that it can not be done wtih Spektrum's system as the latency is way too slow using a module. Futaba may figure out so you can have you cake and and eat it too, but would it really surprise you to see a updated 12/14MZ come out in a year or two with 2.4ghz built in. It would not me. Futaba is NOT going to come out with a simple module system right now for their module based radios as they have spent WAY TOO MUCH money developing the G3 RX's and a 2.4ghz would effectively KILL the sales of them almost 100% to the day the 2.4ghz modules debuted. Simple business. Even if Futaba HAS the ability to do what you want right now I could see several ($$$) reasons why they may hold the technology to amoritize the R&D cost of G3 technology. It is not like Intel and other tech companies has not done it before.

Lots of factors at work here guys. I am a die hard JR man and have been flying Spektrum since it came out, but I am glad to see Futaba go this way too.

Norman Ross Jr.

[GremlinX]

Thats ok, 72 mhz aint goin' anywhere anytime soon anyways...

[bodywerks]

	Quote: Originally Posted by futurase
	Guys, As bad as you might want it and I understand that, I do not think you will ever get your simple module for your whatever. Unless Futaba figures out how, Paul Beard (designer of Spektrum) says that it can not be done wtih Spektrum's system as the latency is way too slow using a module. Futaba may figure out so you can have you cake and and eat it too, but would it really surprise you to see a updated 12/14MZ come out in a year or two with 2.4ghz built in. It would not me. Futaba is NOT going to come out with a simple module system right now for their module based radios as they have spent WAY TOO MUCH money developing the G3 RX's and a 2.4ghz would effectively KILL the sales of them almost 100% to the day the 2.4ghz modules debuted. Simple business. Even if Futaba HAS the ability to do what you want right now I could see several ($$$) reasons why they may hold the technology to amoritize the R&D cost of G3 technology. It is not like Intel and other tech companies has not done it before. Lots of factors at work here guys. I am a die hard JR man and have been flying Spektrum since it came out, but I am glad to see Futaba go this way too. Norman Ross Jr.

And that's why we are thankful for what XPS is doing for/trying to do for us. They are doing what the radio companies won't, which is offer a plug-and-play module. XPS stands only to profit from it...

[futurase]

I just want to see ExtremePowerSystems actually get a product to market. They say this and that, but...

Like you said, nothing but profit for them if they do.

Norman Ross Jr.

[JeeUm]

	Quote: Originally Posted by GremlinX
	Thats ok, 72 mhz aint goin' anywhere anytime soon anyways...

I agree. As much as I think this new technology is way cool and I'm sure will continue improve, right now I'm just not really paying much attention to it. Just my opinion.

[Judge]

Seems reasonable. Like I said, I think they started in the meat of their market. They sell WAY more 4 and 6 channel radios than they do 9-12-14 channel radios. That likely influenced their thinking. You don't become the largest RC company in the world by being stupid.

We all have to keep in mind that we are at an end point of RC users. Take a look around at the average guy. A 4 or 6 channel radio in a trainer or some sport plane. If he adds a 5th servo you'd think he just launched a mission to the Moon!!

The rest of us will have to wait a bit longer. I suspect that this is just the start and NOT the end.

Of course, I could be wrong.

[loop an roll]

will a futaba radio scan over a spectrum radio so it can see the ch. being used

[JimC-MD]

	Quote: Originally Posted by loop an roll
	will a futaba radio scan over a spectrum radio so it can see the ch. being used

I am not speculating here. This was read in the text of the Robbe site under the link to the Futaba 2.4 system description.

They are using frequency hopping and binding. The frequency hopping eliminates the need for a scanner in the TX according to the blurb under description.

[johnyrcu]

	Quote: Originally Posted by futurase
	Guys, As bad as you might want it and I understand that, I do not think you will ever get your simple module for your whatever. Unless Futaba figures out how, Paul Beard (designer of Spektrum) says that it can not be done wtih Spektrum's system as the latency is way too slow using a module. Futaba may figure out so you can have you cake and and eat it too, but would it really surprise you to see a updated 12/14MZ come out in a year or two with 2.4ghz built in. It would not me. Futaba is NOT going to come out with a simple module system right now for their module based radios as they have spent WAY TOO MUCH money developing the G3 RX's and a 2.4ghz would effectively KILL the sales of them almost 100% to the day the 2.4ghz modules debuted. Simple business. Even if Futaba HAS the ability to do what you want right now I could see several ($$$) reasons why they may hold the technology to amoritize the R&D cost of G3 technology. It is not like Intel and other tech companies has not done it before. Lots of factors at work here guys. I am a die hard JR man and have been flying Spektrum since it came out, but I am glad to see Futaba go this way too. Norman Ross Jr.

maybe I'm missing something here but all the functions of the 14mz are still there its just the wave length that changes, why would they loose $$$ I would think they would make more , now they get you to buy something new now that they got your $2,100.00

[bosshoss]

All the 2.4ghz equipment has to work and play well with each other, or it won;t be FCC Type accepted., period.

Yes, Futaba system , WILL NOT INTERFERE, with Spektrum. And Vice versa.

The only wild card in the 2.4ghz world, is and always will be , until we have some import control, the rouge wireless camera and other devices that operate on a wide rock bound single channel, ALA 2.4ghz Ham band cameras on EBAY.

The Amatuer radio portion of the band has been pirated by unscrupulous overseas companies that sell these products will nilly to any one who wants one...no license needed.

They bleed, cause spurious transmissions, and if they drift far enough and in the right place, can cause problems..in various conditions, in theory.

I have only seen one instance of this happening...at our golf dome. THe Pirate camera on 2.4g was getting wiped out by the Spektums ...but the Spektrums were seemingly unaffected.

Maybe someone who has installed a pirate camera AND a Spektrum on the same airplane can fill us in on the results....

[RightThrust]

I would not anticipate 2.4 ghz coming to the high end radios too soon. As mentioned ealier, Futaba has so much R&D on the G3 system that it would be stupid to simply replace it with 2.4 ghz right now. I've been flying G3 rx's in my airplane for hundreds and hundreds of flights without a single glitch. All of the bad wrap the recievers get is most likely from noise inside the airframes. Several "reciever" issues have been cured by fixing the metal-to-metal contact and other noise issues inside the airframe. The G3 recievers are just more sensitive to outside rf than previous recievers. I too am looking forward to the 2.4ghz 6 channel system, which includes D/R, expo, etc... I'm looking forward to the system for my heli and electrics and possibly other smaller planes. My competition models will still be guided my the G3 recievers.

-Kelly