Futaba 2.4 GHz FASST FULL RANGE Air System

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Mr.Pickle
	I am not trying to step on your toes here judge but the Robbe website CLEARLY shows that this is intended as a park flier system, full range or not.

I posted the specs for the system to be sold in the US. There was also the photos of the system at the Nuremberg toy show. You were referencing outdated information and I wanted to clear that up.

You can also now go to Tower to see it there.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPZT8&P=7

[Mr.Pickle]

Ahhh I see it shows on TH site that it can be used for parkliers 'TOO'!
But now what do we believe?? Futaba has their equip. being advertised as a parkflier system in Germany but over here has the EXACT SAME SYSTEM being advertised with different possible applications???????? It looks identicle, (because it is).
any one else confused??
I personally feel that this system could prob. be used in whatever you can get it into. The same prob. goes for the DX6 system huh?? But is the DX a 'full range' system?
What exactly is the diff. between full range and not full range??

[Flatlandman]

I bet the 12fg takes the place of the 9c.

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Mr.Pickle
	Ahhh I see it shows on TH site that it can be used for parkliers 'TOO'!

This is a gentle jab at Spektrum who have two systems and three different receivers to handle both the full range "normal" market and the park flier market. Futaba is saying that their system does it all without the need for smaller or different receivers.

	Quote:
	But now what do we believe?? Futaba has their equip. being advertised as a parkflier system in Germany but over here has the EXACT SAME SYSTEM being advertised with different possible applications???????? It looks identicle, (because it is). any one else confused??

Well since the system you will likely buy is the one from Tower that seems to me to be the only one that is important. It is also likely that Robbe has not updated their website.

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	I personally feel that this system could prob. be used in whatever you can get it into. The same prob. goes for the DX6 system huh?? But is the DX a 'full range' system? What exactly is the diff. between full range and not full range??

You don't need to "personally feel" anything. Futaba very clearly states that it is fine for full service use in anything you want to fly it in. What more do you need??

The DX-6 is still classified by Spektrum as a Park Flier due to range issues related to the design of the receivers. The Futaba RX is designed for full service use without limitation.

[Mr.Pickle]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
	You don't need to "personally feel" anything.

Looks like you are, so whooaa slow down there judge! No need to get riled.
Tell ya what, I will unsubscribe from this thread so that you may continue to update us all about this new radio, & without my input!

[Judge]

Nope, did not mean it that way. Just trying to keep the facts straight.

[Windecker]

Well I am not exactly clear on the full range arguement going on but I can say after using the radio all weekend at the E Fest can say it works great! I put somewhere between 12-15 flights on it with many many other radios on at the time (minimum 16 others at all times) and had no problems of any type. It is fast, can't tell the difference between it and my 14MZ (while using other than the G3 RX)
I think the whole 6, 7, 12, 14 channel arguement is just a time thing. Got to walk before you run and the market is very strong in the 6 channel arena.

Time and use will tell the tale on the full range arguement. Here in the midwest it is friggin cold outside, I am not planning on full range testing myself till it warms up. Talking with Frank and some other "test" pilots at the E Fest, they claim they flew larger planes to the limit of eyesite with no problems.
I also know they worked very hard to be sure it did not affect or get affected by other 2.4 systems. Seemed to be the case this past weekend, nobody had issues I know of using it or the Spectrum.


Either way, they have it and it is working which is great.
Will B.

[Thunderbird]

Too little too late. need to intoduce at least 7C or 9C to get into it, preferably a module for 9, 12, or 14.

The major need for 2.4 is in the high end market. Do not need an advanved degree in marketing to figure this out.

[Flyfalcons]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Thunderbird
	Too little too late. need to intoduce at least 7C or 9C to get into it, preferably a module for 9, 12, or 14. The major need for 2.4 is in the high end market. Do not need an advanved degree in marketing to figure this out.

You are sooooooo wrong here. Futaba will make much more money selling their 2.4 system in the entry/medium level radios than it ever will in the high end radios. Don't believe me, just go to your local club and count radios. If you think Futaba is doing too little too late then I imagine you are getting a Spektrum system? Because it's obvious that Futaba will never come out with a medium/high end 2.4 system.

[madmax]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Thunderbird
	Need to intoduce at least 7C or 9C to get into it, preferably a module for 9, 12, or 14.

Interesting observation...

[wab797]

Hi, was at the WRAMS show a week ago and attended a seminar by John from Team futaba, He mentioned that there will be upgrades available for Futabe 9c and above but it will not be a module, you will have to send in the radio. Think he mentioned about $225-$250 just for the Tx conversion, still need to get new Rx's.
Should be available towards the end of 2007

Has anyone else heard about this??

[toprudder]

	Quote: Originally Posted by wab797
	Hi, was at the WRAMS show a week ago and attended a seminar by John from Team futaba, He mentioned that there will be upgrades available for Futabe 9c and above but it will not be a module, you will have to send in the radio. Think he mentioned about $225-$250 just for the Tx conversion, still need to get new Rx's. Should be available towards the end of 2007 Has anyone else heard about this??

Have not heard that before. I have an old 9ZAP with several receivers, can't see spending that kind of money to get it upgraded. And, we don't know yet about the update rate (latency) of the converted systems.

I'll wait until they have a 12 or 14MZ on 2.4 before I go that route. If I want 2.4g before then, I'll go with the Spektrum module.

OTOH, if everybody rushes to get 2.4g, the 72mhz frequencies won't be so crowded anymore.

Bob R.