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Old 02-02-2008, 05:46 PM   #433 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

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44 or so days since this claim.. yet no proof ..got to love it!!!!

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Old 02-02-2008, 06:28 PM   #434 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

The scanner has arrived, The XPS units have arrived, My transmitter module for the 2.4 Ghz spectrum analyzer has not and without that I cannot do a thing to force the XPS hop sequence.

Guys I'm 6000 miles from the nearest radio shack shop. One diode or one bloody screw missing and it takes me two weeks to get it.

No ones forgotten the thread, guys have an investment in it with hardware and cash.

Hang in and thou shalt see but it will not be before next weekend at the earliest.
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:31 PM   #435 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

Kiwi---take your time and do it right.

This is more than an XPS doesn't Hop thread........All the major brands are being tested against each other.......Can't wait to see the results.
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

Exactly sweetpea.

This is not something to set XPS up to fail. Its a setup to see how they all work.
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

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The scanner has arrived, The XPS units have arrived, My transmitter module for the 2.4 Ghz spectrum analyzer has not and without that I cannot do a thing to force the XPS hop sequence.

Guys I'm 6000 miles from the nearest radio shack shop. One diode or one bloody screw missing and it takes me two weeks to get it.

No ones forgotten the thread, guys have an investment in it with hardware and cash.

Hang in and thou shalt see but it will not be before next weekend at the earliest.
Kiwi,

with all due respect, I would like to see the origional testing done by Xjet. The same testing that he kicked off this thread with, under the assumption of: "Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS." That's what I'm waiting on.
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:45 PM   #438 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

%0%,

Without putting petrol on the fire thats a mute subject. Jim Drew even went on record to say the system DOES NOT HOP if it gets swamped by a sudden hit. He says it will hop if the interference ramps up.

Being able to RAMP UP is whats hard to do as you need some serious knowledge and access to some trick equipment to do it.

By just swamping XPS we know its dead, thats a fact. That dont need any proof from anyone and that is not the issue.

The issue is will it hop with a gradually increasing frequency clash. XJET is working on building that test device. Again its not his day job, he up to his butt in alligators doing a UAV tender and thats what pays the bills. I have been in touch with him, he is genuine and when he has the test gear we will all get to see his testing.

But the worlds not stopping waiting for him or me. It keeps turning, XPS, FASST, SPEKTRUM, ASSAN etc are all still selling and developing and god knows what else with new systems.

It will be here when its here unless you would like to do it faster for everyone.

If not wait like the rest.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:18 PM   #439 (permalink)
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Allan,

Take your time. We can all wait a couple of weeks. We have waited this long, and want it done right.

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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

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44 or so days since this claim.. yet no proof ..got to love it!!!!

You're so right -- the only proof is the manufacturer's admission that it won't hop. Hell, you can't believe them can you?
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:38 AM   #441 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

guys just do your thing and dont worry about the hecklers. iam glad someone here even cares to take on something like this, much less having to listen to the hecklers but thiers 1 or 2 in every crowd. thing is, no matter what you find out with the extreme link system i wouldnt buy one. ok on with it
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

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You're so right -- the only proof is the manufacturer's admission that it won't hop. Hell, you can't believe them can you?
im waiting on YOUR proof!... the flaws YOU are talking about... the issues YOU brought up.. it seems YOU have passed off the testing to kiwi.. which i look forward to hearing his results but YOU did an awful nice job of ducking THIS ONE...that is all
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im waiting on YOUR proof!... the flaws YOU are talking about... the issues YOU brought up.. it seems YOU have passed off the testing to kiwi.. which i look forward to hearing his results but YOU did an awful nice job of ducking THIS ONE...that is all
let's see. a Teacher once told me that the sky was blue .. . Ilook up, and it's blue. . gee. . kind of a no brainer.

Jim Drew says his XPS system will not hop if it's swamped. . we've had numerous total lockout crashes that act as if the receivers got swamped (because that's the only thing that will cause them not to receive. . right???) Again. . a no brainer.

Someone says tht because Jim Drew admits this flaw .. and it seems to be occuring in our planes, that there is an agreement of facts, like gee, it actually happens . .. and you DOUBT IT?????

After a manufacturer admits to a problem like this, it's not up to US to prove it. .it exists, for crying out loud. All we are doing now is testing to verify that it DOES exist. . where the actual thresholds are (as if it matters when we are flying. . . . ) what happens if it does hop, and how all the systems match up concerning tenacity for an RF connection, and how easily they can be jammed or glitched. The fact that XPS CAN be jammed or glitched has already been well documented. What happens afterward, and whether it is recoverable, is now the question.

I suggest re-reading all of Xjet's posts concerning his allegations, and where he got his information. It's already been typed several times. Perhaps you missed it.
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I suggest re-reading all of Xjet's posts concerning his allegations, and where he got his information. It's already been typed several times. Perhaps you missed it.
i suggest you re-read his posts and tell me who ran the "idependent tests" the thread title clearly implies :::::Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS ...since "missed" it... thats what I want to know.. thats what most have wanted to know all along.. after the question was asked several times xjet jumped ship on this thread... it seems now someone else will be doing testing he is back on board... hows that new china system you are testing xjet?
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