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Old 05-01-2008, 10:00 PM   #1117 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

Thanks Kiwi,

I am currently using ASSAN in a pretty benign 2.4 environment with mostly EP foamies. I am also using a X8R7L with the long antenna on a 0.25ci slimer. So far, no issues that can be directly attributed to the radio.

It's good to know what I am getting into anyway, but since ASSAN did not not make any wild claims, I cannot fault them for anything.

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Old 05-02-2008, 04:10 AM   #1118 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

Exactly, Assan neither claimed to have invented some kind of super-monopole-antenna, nor did they claim to hop when they don't.

The problem is that if you don't hop, it's worse flying 2.4GHz than 35 MHz (I'm in europe) because that frequency is reserved for RC - 2.4GHz isn't.
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:22 AM   #1119 (permalink)
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Thank you Kiwi for all the time and effort!

People like you make theis hobby wonderful!

Should you once consider doing tests on Fasst and Spektrum swamping large sections of the band, you could put Fasst in "France mode". This way, it will use less channels, and make it easier to swamp the part of the band it uses.

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Old 05-02-2008, 06:28 AM   #1120 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

Thanks very much, Kiwi. That's all I need to know. Pretty easy to judge systems now with this excellent info. Anyone who has an expensive plane bite the dust because they chose to ignore this evidence deserves all they get.

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Old 05-02-2008, 06:41 AM   #1121 (permalink)
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Thanks Kiwi, that is just what we all suspected to be the results I think, did you by chance put the Spektrum flight logger on the Rx after the test? it would be interesting to see the frame drop outs on each aerial, just a thought.

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Old 05-02-2008, 08:37 PM   #1122 (permalink)
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Default Re: Independent tests prove lack of frequency hopping with XPS

I flew a heli on an infra red guidance system and there was no interference- but the tv changed channels
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:28 PM   #1123 (permalink)
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Kiwi you've done great work. Thank you.

I figured there was something screwy with XPS from the day I got it. I was one of the first people to buy it.

I hooked it up on my kitchen counter with one servo and a freshly charged pack and it started pulsing the servo. I put it in my 33% H9 Cap and things got weirder, like pulsing rudder, uncommanded control inputs and no response at all even with green lights on transmitter module and receiver.

Jim Drew and the other XPS forum people told me my 9Z was the problem. I figured that was nonsense which proved to be true. I put a Spektrum module in my 9Z and it has worked perfectly with Spektrum ever since.

Here are some short, entertaining videos of that bizarre XPS behavior:
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File Type: wmv XPS naughtiness.wmv (8.04 MB, 16 views)
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:33 PM   #1124 (permalink)
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Kiwi you've done great work. Thank you.

I figured there was something screwy with XPS from the day I got it. I was one of the first people to buy it.

I hooked it up on my kitchen counter with one servo and a freshly charged pack and it started pulsing the servo. I put it in my 33% H9 Cap and things got weirder, like pulsing rudder, uncommanded control inputs and no response at all even with green lights on transmitter module and receiver.

Jim Drew and the other XPS forum people told me my 9Z was the problem. I figured that was nonsense which proved to be true. I put a Spektrum module in my 9Z and it has worked perfectly with Spektrum ever since.

Here are some short, entertaining videos of that bizarre XPS behavior:
Dustflyer. . the "pulsing" was to prove that the Monster was ALIVE!! It's ALIVE. . .It's ALIVE Muahahahahahahahahahah ! ! ! !
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looks more like a nervous twitch to me...
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Kiwi you've done great work. Thank you.

I figured there was something screwy with XPS from the day I got it. I was one of the first people to buy it.

I hooked it up on my kitchen counter with one servo and a freshly charged pack and it started pulsing the servo. I put it in my 33% H9 Cap and things got weirder, like pulsing rudder, uncommanded control inputs and no response at all even with green lights on transmitter module and receiver.

Jim Drew and the other XPS forum people told me my 9Z was the problem. I figured that was nonsense which proved to be true. I put a Spektrum module in my 9Z and it has worked perfectly with Spektrum ever since.

Here are some short, entertaining videos of that bizarre XPS behavior:

Haaaaaa Dustflyer, To quote JD those are not real world tests mate. No one flies in a simulated environment. Bench testing has nothing on doing it down at the club mate.

Seriously your lucky and or scrupulous in your setup to find that as a lot of people really only wave the sticks around to make sure things move but they dont always hold them away from the servo center point for any length of time. How often have you seen some one take off with a new plane and have the flying surfaces reversed. Its because they only waggle them, they do not make a positive ID of how far, how fast etc.

There's no doubt that XPS is a second tier system and not for every application. In fact if it functions like that I dont know what application it would fit.
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:08 PM   #1127 (permalink)
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I'm still grinnin' guys! Nice to see some humor in this XPS stuff for a change!
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:11 PM   #1128 (permalink)
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Shame on you Dusty! You couldn't get it to work on the bench so you didn't just go ahead and fly it!!!! Especially since those tests don't count

I sure wish that it would have done that for me!
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