Problems!! 14MZ 2.4 R6014FS

[prizzy]

I understand. Thanks catman, sorry for making you repeat yourself

[Judge]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton
	It's a double-edged sword, the 'net also brought this issue to the surface. I'd never heard of it until this thread,

You had not, but Futaba was aware, sort of, since the OP in this thread gave them no time to respond before hitting the Net. I love this notion that were it not for the Net that Futaba, or JR, or whomever would ignore problems and we poor modelers would suffer the consequences.

There might be utility in the idea of people becoming aware of the potential problem, but the downside is that before they can even act people start complaining about poor design, poor service, etc.

Oh well, like you said, a double edged sword.

[Simpleton]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
	You had not, but Futaba was aware, sort of, since the OP in this thread gave them no time to respond before hitting the Net. I love this notion that were it not for the Net that Futaba, or JR, or whomever would ignore problems and we poor modelers would suffer the consequences. There might be utility in the idea of people becoming aware of the potential problem, but the downside is that before they can even act people start complaining about poor design, poor service, etc. Oh well, like you said, a double edged sword.

Right, but say one guy sends in his 6014 and says it quit. Futaba finds nothing wrong with it, sends it back, he mounts it up and it flys fine until it gets hot, then it quits again. Rinse, repeat. I didn't say Futaba was trying to hide anything, or deny anything. They honestly might not have known that ambient temperature was the problem.

Now they have their team of experts working on a fix. This is good, except for Joe Blow, not being privvy to the inner machinations of Futaba, goes off and crashes because, like me, he'd not heard that high ambient temperatures MIGHT cause a problem with certain Futaba FASST RXs. So although Futaba is doing everything humanly possible to pinpoint the problem related by the OP, Joe Blow has a wadded up pile of crap in the back of his truck.

Now, if I'm Joe Blow, I'd be more than a little happy to read a thread where others were relating similar experiences with similar gear BEFORE I went and wadded my plane up. Kudos to Futaba for doing everything they can to get a handle on the situation, no doubt about it. Still, if this tread can keep even one Joe Blow from taking a dirt nap, then it is very helpful-regardless of what Futaba is doing.

[freya1]

SIMPLETON you sure got it right, That is what I uderstood was the whole purpose of this tread from the first post, nobody was saying we wanted a solution overnite, just aknowledgment to the problem to inform and keep anybody fromm crashin or hurting somebody, and it seems as of now it is working out.
Thanks for all the good info, and Futaba please keep us posted on any findings.

[Dave Dietrich]

Would it be possible to get some pictures of different setups that are having the problem. We might start to see some similarities. Also some pics of setups that are not having any problems.

[BR289]

	Quote: Originally Posted by dubd
	Judge, given that you are affiliated with Futaba, the best thing you can do is stay out of this. The more you post, the more of a negative opinion I have about Futaba.

I dont agree with that statement one bit. I agree with everything Judge has said to this point and being part of Futaba probably doesnt change anything he has said. I personally am glad he "chimes" in.

[dubd]

	Quote: Originally Posted by BR289
	I dont agree with that statement one bit. I agree with everything Judge has said to this point and being part of Futaba probably doesnt change anything he has said. I personally am glad he "chimes" in.

You don't have to agree, it's my opinion. I am sure others feel he is being helpful, but I do not. I am not saying he is a bad guy or anything.

[catman3070]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Dave Dietrich
	Would it be possible to get some pictures of different setups that are having the problem. We might start to see some similarities. Also some pics of setups that are not having any problems.

Dave, I am not sure if you have been watching this thread from the beginning, but it appears every installation is different. Also installation at this point doesn't matter since it has been determined heat is the issue.

[catman3070]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Judge
	You had not, but Futaba was aware, sort of, since the OP in this thread gave them no time to respond before hitting the Net. I love this notion that were it not for the Net that Futaba, or JR, or whomever would ignore problems and we poor modelers would suffer the consequences. There might be utility in the idea of people becoming aware of the potential problem, but the downside is that before they can even act people start complaining about poor design, poor service, etc. Oh well, like you said, a double edged sword.

All I see is . I'd rather everyone had a and just got along. If someone says something you don't like (I understand your team futaba but part of that is being passive) don't put on the gloves and go defensive.

[xcellheli]

	Quote: Originally Posted by catman3070
	All I see is . I'd rather everyone had a and just got along. If someone says something you don't like (I understand your team futaba but part of that is being passive) don't put on the gloves and go defensive.

I'm with catman3070. Lets just crack open a few Bud Lights in aluminum bottles and relax until Futaba gives us the solution. When done with the bottles we can turn them into canisters. It will help us pass the time.

[freya1]

Beat you to it, Just had 3 Coronas while changing my 2.4 RX to my PCM RX

[Simpleton]

That's telling them! Or something.