DX-7.... explain this!

[smokin]

i tell ya what.... PREFLIGHTS EVERYTIME!!!!!!!
i realize that knowing that now won't bring your rig back, but i do believe it will save future planes for you!
good luck and keep flying!

[rede2fly]

it wont matter how old the dx-7 is it would still be in warranty. they havent been out 3 years. i have been flying jr for as long as they have been on the market and never had this problem. not saying that it couldnt happen. just saying never herd of it. i'am sorry for the loss. but as others say,and as i do allways,allways, preflight. so its really hard for you to expect horizon to pay for your negligence to do your duty as the pilot,to do a preflight check. sorry but you just have to bite the bullit on this, and let it burn in the ole memory file (the brain). they will indeed be as good as da and fix the problem,if they find one for free. of this i'am shure. they are awsome to deal with. and that is why i buy as much as i can from them. i trust them they have allways done the right thing for me for the last allmost 20 years

[RappyMan]

So it's pretty much unanimous on the pre-flight check then? Ha ha! You could be president - ignore the obvious and focus on something else. There's no where I haven't agreed with: a second pre-flight before the second flight would have saved the plane. What's the reason the plane is wrecked? The DX-7 took a dump! A pre-flight would have caught this.... but the reason the plane crashed is the DX-7 forgot that we just reversed the ailerons 15 minutes ago. (A pre-flight would have caught this!!! (I'm repeating it over and over so you don't have to!))
It's also interesting that 3 others have had the same problem - out of the 500 or so that have looked at the thread. One seemed to be fixed by charging the battery, one just had to re-enter the info & not sure on the other. Spektrum (JR) is a pretty well known name - it's not a start up with unknown quality.
Does anyone know what would be required to fix the condition? What's the probablity it might happen again? Is shelving / stomping on it and getting something else the way to go? I'm hoping for some confidence in the radio again & don't want to chance something else. Thankfully the 260 just hit into a field & not something or someone. If anyone has helpful info (other than preflight (got it!)) please let know.

Thanks
Terry

[jimbomilligan]

preflight.

[KIM]

i have found that 90% off all mym accidents were do to me not doing something or checking something,so we all forget some time and then it bites ooo the other 10% was my fault also.

[RappyMan]

Okay Jim - that and the guy pointing out not to use model #13 have made me laugh. I need some of that!

It's always the pilot - that's what makes this one a bit of a mystery. I've never seen a TX do something like this before - never even heard of someone having the TX try to sabotage you. I would guess that all radios are somewhat similar & could happen to any brand. My trusty 8U has been around over 8 years & has tons of use with no issues... the DX-7 doesn't have a scratch on it and has worked perfect for about 1 year till this.

[sensei]

Hello Terry,

I also am sorry for your loss however you should learn a couple of things from this.

First off, we all agree the stored program failed but the reason it failed remains uncertain because you have failed so far to send your radio into the manufacturer for a proper evaluation of the problem.

Second off, we all agree that your airplane crashed and that sucks we all know, however you failed to follow the golden rule of every flight (check the direction of all your surfaces, this is the real reason for your crash not because of a failed program.
I think if you really think about it; you might realize that you hold even more responsibility for the crash than the manufacture.

Third off, You catch more bee's with honey than you do with salt. What I mean by this is we all should try to work with the manufactures on our issues before we run to these forumes and cast stones before the manufacturer even knows that our problem exist. Try to see it from their point when they read this stuff.

I am not beating on you guy, I am just trying to give you a little constuctive critisisom.

Bob

[SleepyC]

Sensi has earned his name with his building skills and now backs it up with his wisdom.
Anytime a crash happens there is going to be an explosion of emotions. best thing to do is sit back for a second and really think about the situation.

I have to agree with one thing... every flight means you... right - check, left - check, up - check, down - check, ok..... Hit it.

And:

	Quote:
	You catch more bee's with honey than you do with salt.

This may be the greatest line ever. Its forever in my memory banks.

[Rickster]

OK.. For everyone that is waving the "Pre-Flight " Flag at him...


Say for the sake of argument you have just bult a cherry perfect A-4 Skyhawk or maybe a scaled out P-40 (Some may see where this is heading).. You fuel it up, all your buddies and even the camera crew for Model Aviation and RC modeler are there to see you maiden this beuty and capture it on still and video for all the modeling world to see...

You turn on your trusty DX with total confidence and with all the congregation's hoorays you turn on the airborn and then.....


WHAMMMMMM

The gears retract out from under it and it slams donw on the concrete battle scarring up the gear doors and underside of the aircraft....

NOW WHAT?????

All the preflighting in the world would not have revealed this....


Rick

[aviti]

I agree with others. Check that your controls work, that they return to neutral and they move the right direction. You need to check every flight.

As far as missing your warbird event...Horizon has turned around stuff for me in very short times. They will likely turn it around in less than 5 days but you are dealing with mail time etc. Perhaps one of your buddies will let you use their transmitter for your event? Not much worry that you'd crash their tx. You could also consider buying a new tx and sell your other one when it gets back with a clean bill of health.

For me, life is too short and I work too hard to miss a fun event for a couple hundred bucks. The new tx would be $350 but you could sell the old one for at least $150. Just some ideas to consider.

[sensei]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Rickster
	OK.. For everyone that is waving the "Pre-Flight " Flag at him... Say for the sake of argument you have just bult a cherry perfect A-4 Skyhawk or maybe a scaled out P-40 (Some may see where this is heading).. You fuel it up, all your buddies and even the camera crew for Model Aviation and RC modeler are there to see you maiden this beuty and capture it on still and video for all the modeling world to see... You turn on your trusty DX with total confidence and with all the congregation's hoorays you turn on the airborn and then..... WHAMMMMMM The gears retract out from under it and it slams donw on the concrete battle scarring up the gear doors and underside of the aircraft.... NOW WHAT????? All the preflighting in the world would not have revealed this.... Rick

Hello Rick,

I say you would scratch up the bottom of you warbird on camra and that would be a shame, however you would not destroy it because you failed to properly pre-flight your primary control surfaces and rolled it hardover into the ground with the camra running....

Bob

[rede2fly]

there is one thing that i can think of. inside every computor radio is a battery backup. so to speak, to remember the programming when the unit is turned off. if this has any problems whatsoever it could indeed cause the problem you had. not saying that it is the cause, but it could be. the only way to check is to send it in and have horizon check it. if this is the problem they may have a different attitude on your situation. but i would just keep a level head when talking with them. and remember just because something is new dosent mean it will work the way it should. i would never even think of giving up my jr for any other radio on the market even if they gave it to me.with all the radios they make they are bound to have a problem every now and then. just be calm when talking with them, and try to get things worked out to the best you can. give them the benifit of the doubt. hey it happens. again sorry for your loss. it would suit you the best to send it in with a letter explaining the issue at hand and not do it over the phone. could you image how many people call every day trying to get something for nothing. or meaning trying to blame there equipment.give it a shot you have nothing to loose