PAU 36% Edge 540 Build

[astrohog]

I have to concur with JohnVH on this one! I have been flying mine (almost exclusively) for a year and a half now with zero issues.

I know there was an issue with wing tube length from the factory that PAU addressed by contacting every customer and having them measure their wing tubes to identify the incorrect (short) ones, and if anyone had a short one, it was replaced with a correct one.

PAU has stepped up to the plate on EVERY single issue they have been made aware of, and that is very refreshing these days!

When I assembled mine over a year ago, I did cut 1" off my compact DA 100 mufflers and had to cut into the bottom of the plywood cowl ring to get the cowl to slide on to my liking. It was easy to do and have had no problems in a year-and-a-half.

Go out and enjoy your plane, as this is one awesome aircraft!

Regards,

Astrohog

[Scotte 540]

	Quote: Originally Posted by JohnVH
	Flew mine a bunch this weeked, as did Astrohog, and Ken, this is my new favorite, we were all doing snaps, blenders, walls, parachutes without incedent.. If you understand and respect the plane itll last forever. Glad your going to fix yours Scott, btw, who was the 'expert' you had look it over?

Not sure what you mean by understand & respect the plane, sounds like you were putting this plane thru way more stress than I ever did?? Are your planes from the first run/shipment? All the wing failures that I know about are from the second run of planes............The expert will remain nameless for now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I was totally surprised that the PAU didn't want to inspect the damage themselves, I think I would be a lot more concerned about what caused these failures and had their "experts" look over the guts of the wings, instead of coming up with cockamamie stories that the wing tube was too short or we are flying the plane beyond its limits------believe me when I say, that there was nothing I did to this plane in the air that should of been over stressing or caused this to happen...................This fall when I redo the wings I will show everyone the changes that I'll be doing.........I would like to hear the owners comments publicly, so when this happens again, we will have it as reference..............................Or if it was me running a quality sensitive business such as this, I would recall all the wings to be safe. IMO

[harv]

i should just mention scotte that i had a 1st gen wings on my 2nd edge.

[Scotte 540]

	Quote: Originally Posted by harv
	i should just mention scotte that i had a 1st gen wings on my 2nd edge.

My thoughts: because guys are having sucsess and flying them with no troubles is,,,poor quality control.......Was my plane, when being built, the last one on the table on Friday night and the workers didn't do a proper job gluing??? I think it is a combination of that, with some building techniques/materials for lightness that make some of these wings ready to blow..............It would be nice to hear comments from people other than the PAU groupies who would never say any bad about this manufacturing.........Sorry Jeff/John, take nothing personal please, you are nice people...

[tkapfer]

Were the 1st and 2nd gen of this plane last year?
I just bought mine this year about a month or so ago and it is numbered 006.
Hopefully they have gotten better.

Maybe I'll drop a little thin CA down around some joints as well.

How long was the wing tube supposed to be?

Thanks

[astrohog]

	Quote:
	It would be nice to hear comments from people other than the PAU groupies who would never say any bad about this manufacturing

I am sorry that you had issues with your plane Scott but I have an issue with the comment that is quoted above. If you (or any others reading this) look closely, I have NEVER made any claims about this plane, PAU, or any other PAU plane that was not first-hand, personal experience. If I thought PAU planes were crap, I would not fly them. I work hard for my money just as I am sure you and all others here do and I spend it judiciously and without regards to "peer pressure".

That is just how I roll, FWIW!

Regards,

Astrohog
(Jeff)

[Scotte 540]

The point I'm trying to make, is there has been many issues with the wings of this airplane, not just mine, obviously not yours but at least four other people, that I know about-------A little more than coincidence if you ask me and with someone blaming them self for something that may or may not been their fault, I just thought it was time to at least get what has happened to some of these wings out in the open.............I like some of PAU's aircraft, kina doubt if I would ever buy another one,,,,,people should make their own decisions based on all the information that can be read, talked about and seen.............If you own a PAU 36% Edge 540, take a real good look into the frame work of your wings,,,,,,pay close attention to the second/third rib in and see if you can see any damage, near the leading edge,,,,,,,look for signs of glue or lack of, on all visible connections.........again I addressed all this and it still blew off, so when I cut into the wings for the rebuild I will show you what I will be doing, so this won't happen to me again..........

[wylieruneyjr]

I just want to say that I know there were no defects in my wings. They failed because I pushed them beyond design limits. I will not allow anyone to say there is a problem with the design on this plane. Of the few failures one guy admitted he was doing parachutes at throttle and bragging about how he could see the wings flexing. I wonder how many times he did this before the wing finally failed. This guy should grow-up and admit that he killed his plane , not cry baby about it. MAN -UP people. Out of 1000+ planes out there only 4 wing failures. And I,d bet all but two were pilot error. Two may have been caused by wing tubes being too short. Maybe, I,d bet it was repeat stresses caused by pilot error. PAU HAS THE BEST SERVICE PERIOD> AND WOULD NOT HESITATE TO RECALL WINGS IF THERE WERE REAL PROBLEMS. It only Takes one cry baby to bad mouth a company, and cause problems. I say MAN - UP. IF your wing failed it was most likely your own fault. Tell the truth. Or aleast quit slandering a great product. PS. If you are flying at an event and suffer wing failure, there should not be any safety issues, unless you are over flying people. And we all know not to do that. If you are good and still have control attempt a hemple landing. If you aren,t that good or don,t have control dump it. No safety issue unless you are doing something you shouldn,t be doing. NOT A SAFETY ISSUE OR DESIGN FLAW.

[Scotte 540]

	Quote: Originally Posted by wylieruneyjr
	I just want to say that I know there were no defects in my wings. They failed because I pushed them beyond design limits. I will not allow anyone to say there is a problem with the design on this plane. Of the few failures one guy admitted he was doing parachutes at throttle and bragging about how he could see the wings flexing. I wonder how many times he did this before the wing finally failed. This guy should grow-up and admit that he killed his plane , not cry baby about it. MAN -UP people. Out of 1000+ planes out there only 4 wing failures. And I,d bet all but two were pilot error. Two may have been caused by wing tubes being too short. Maybe, I,d bet it was repeat stresses caused by pilot error. PAU HAS THE BEST SERVICE PERIOD> AND WOULD NOT HESITATE TO RECALL WINGS IF THERE WERE REAL PROBLEMS. It only Takes one cry baby to bad mouth a company, and cause problems. I say MAN - UP. IF your wing failed it was most likely your own fault. Tell the truth. Or aleast quit slandering a great product.

Everyone is entitled to opinions....."Slandering" is a pretty tough word when you can't prove squat about the why's and how's and if you think I'm a cry baby you are totally wrong, I asked for and received my full purchase price back and would not have said another word if I didn't see the same thing happen again to someone else-------I don't care if you think this self induced in all cases, at least it the information is available, and people can make up their own minds on what to buy or how to fly this plane and when it happens again I can at least have the satisfaction of pointing out a potential problem before someone gets hurt, or your out a bunch of money for your gear,,,,,,,,,,,,,You know nothing about how I flew this plane or looked after it and if you or anyone else thinks I'm making a big deal out of this, too bad, I have never bad mouthed this company, but I'm sure as heck not afraid to say something about a product that may have a problem..............

[JohnVH]

Here is all the PAU planes that flew at Bellair this past week. Sorry, I like to take pics.



And my new baby, flew it 3 times sunday morning, love it! You can see Jeff's 36% in the air behind it

[sweetpea]

And I watched Ken fly his about 5 times if not more with the Shaky 85 in it. I'm just about to push the Buy it now button on the site........except the wife's B-day is tomorrow and I don't think she wants the Focke Wulf as her present.

[JohnVH]

speaking of, here is Ken doing his long tail drags, haha