private pilots license

[krashmaster81]

just let me know if i can be of any help . . .

-Matt

[youngflyer]

i had wanted to become an engineer however the math required to be in that career path far exceeds anything that i could pass!

[DKjens]

	Quote: Originally Posted by youngflyer
	i had wanted to become an engineer however the math required to be in that career path far exceeds anything that i could pass!

youngflyer,
I studied back in mo birth country, Denmark, to become an engineer. Growing up, going to school, which is a different system than in the US. I believe in Denmark, the 9 years of mandatory school, age 7 - 16, is equivalent of your first 12 years here, age 5 - 17. For one thing, in Denmark they only have about 9 - 10 weeks vacation per year, where in the US you may have twice that time away from school each year. After the mandatory 9 years, I did 3 years in what would be about college here. You could choose your direction, and I chose the mathematic/physics line. I was always reasonably good at math, not a genius, but always passed and got good grades often. I proceeded to an engineering school, to study ships engineering, it was a 4 year education. This was back in 1984, 85, 86, and Microsoft had not even gone public, I believe he he. The math and the broadness of the ships engineering field, more or less blew me away. I think I realized that I would have rather studied a more pure, or theoretic, or perhaps "abstract" math, if you can call it that.
I would think today though, that the PC and great soft ware programs have taken the edge of the tediousness of the math I ran into. Well, sorry just venting maybe. Could you take a year to really concentrate on math, and maybe that would help you reach your goal?

[youngflyer]

ive never fully understood math. im not a complete failure at it but i most often, do not understand the concepts!

[beechjetdriver]

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to chime in about your feelings.
I am currently a pilot for one of the major fractional outfits flying a Hawker 400XP.
Like many people here I started flying RC planes at 8 years of age and with the help of my dad started to fly Gliders at 14.
I loved aviation back then and I still do now, but it is a different feeling.

i was born in Amsterdam, The Netherlands and left the country when I was 19 years old ( almost 10 years ago)

Throughout the years I obtained my ATP here in the States as well as in Australia, as my dad is living there now.

My flying carreer has had its up and downs, from flying freight at night in a single engine piper to flying for the airlines. Flying for a living is something that you absolutely love doing, because everybody has or will be paying his-her dues.
You will be away from home a lot and your paycheck will not be enough to pay your rent for the first couple of years. "24K a year anyone???, before taxes"

Obtaining a flying carreer to me is very similar to becoming a Doctor. First get a degree and your license then you must get experience to become elligble to get a job at an airline or corporate job.
2500 hrs total time and about 500 multi-engine is about average for a good job.

As we all now, the airlines are not doing very good. The majority have stopped hiring pilots and even worse they have pilots on "furlough" waiting to get called back to work.

Offcourse this will not last, it will get better but it might take years before the industry is healthy again.

Flying for fun and flying as a carreer are 2 very different things, But I would not have changed a single thing in my carreer if I knew back then what I know now.
I still love watching the views from above and being my own boss and not 1 flight is the same.

The biggest risk is not knowing what is out there

hope this helps

[Imac Kiwi]

	Quote: Originally Posted by youngflyer
	ive never fully understood math. im not a complete failure at it but i most often, do not understand the concepts!

If you think this will hold you back or limit your career, then now is the perfect time to invest a little money in a private math tutor. Then you can control your own future.

[Sandbag Special]

I just took my cheak ride (i'm 17) and total expenses were $6150, I live on a residential airpark and so there was no hangar fees and we bought the 1981 Cessna 152, and now are selling it instead of dealing through a flight school, alot of my neighbors have their instructors ratings and cost per hour of their time was $35, that cost is for a total of 23 hours dual and 25 hours solo, so dealing through a flight school you are probably looking at around $7000.

Matthew Fehling

[73drvr]

I am a 737 Captain for a major airline, and I love to go to work. Send me a PM if you like and I will give you my phone number. I would be more than happy to talk about a career in aviation.

[Sandbag Special]

what airline do you fly for 73, im curious because my dad started for Northeast back in the day on 737 and then Delta international on L-1011 and retired when the plane did

[Pundi]

hey
i started flying lessons at the age of 15 doing around an hour every 2 weeks, it was harder doing it that slow but it was all i could afford! i love flying full scale and never regret it! i got my ultralight pilots license not private cause out where i live in the country there is no one teaching private license, i fly a Tecnam which is the one in the pic. i went solo just under 10 hours and now have around 35 hours! my instructor i a local crop duster pilot and is considering buying in a plane with me! how cool! good luck with your flying

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[VIPER69]

I live to fly and love every aspect of it.

You can for sure learn to fly if you desire, though the lessons are not always simple and cool. The easiest part of learning to fly is .. well .. the flying.

The hardest part is learning all the things that help keep you and the rest of us safe up there. Please focus on the second part and the first will be a snap.

--james

[Eury]

	Quote:
	is it worth it to drop 20000 to become an airline pilot?!?!

Man, i wish the discount method for training you're talking about existed, 20k is a drop in the bucket of what it takes to get all your ratings and into an airline job.

I'm 29, and I've been flying since I was 4. I didn't get my PPL until 2000, then the others (CMEL, CSEL, CFI) followed over the course of the next year or so. I now fly for a living with my own airplane for my own company doing charters. I make enough to feed myself, and pay for the plane, and not a whole lot else. But I love it. (Thank God for a good wife)

I will tell you this, if you want to know if an aviation career is for you, ask yourself this question, "Will I be happy eating ramen and living in a tiny apartment so I can fly for a living?" If the answer isn't yes, then go do something that makes you enough money that you can fly for fun. While not all pilots live in poverty forever, they all do for the first few years. Until you have a lot of experience, you aren't worth a thing, and employers will pay you and treat you as such. With the current reality of the airlines, there is no job security anymore, so that's another thing to throw on to the pile to think about. So think about all of those things, and weigh them against the great view out of the office. If you are willing to deal with those others so you can have the great office, then pursue a professional pilot job. If not, then get into a more stable, well paying field, and fly for fun.