am i the only person here who has never hovered

[Matt Chapman]

I can hover my Raptor 50 and my Fury Extreme...thats it. (inverted too)
Been struggling with the TR with my 35% Carden Extra and the CAP 580....as for Real Flight...forget that as well. crash and reset, crash and reset....
the planes know how to do it....now I just need to figure it out. gas through the tank. that should do it. in time.

[Edge540T_Flyer]

I'm having trouble hovering my J3 Cub...
Any advice???

[wizard]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Edge540T_Flyer
	I'm having trouble hovering my J3 Cub... Any advice???

Bigger engine.

[Mike c.]

hovering is over rated. I thought if you can torqe roll, then you must be good. the truth is, its in your head. Mostly you can't hover real long is because your too high. trust me, its 10 time easier to hover down low than up high. I first did my hovers with a foamy, then the extra special on the g3 then my h9 twist. thats when kyle told me if I can hover a twist, i can hover almost anything. He was right.

[bodywerks]

	Quote: Originally Posted by unigender89
	hey there guys, I am having some trouble with my hover and harrier, i started 3d on my pattywagstaff extra with a da-50 and did harriers with that but my wings will constantly rock back and forth, now i have switched to an aviation models yak 54 with the same da-50 cause i thought it would be a better 3d plane but it still rocks in a harrier and when i do a hover i can't keep it from going into a tourqe roll even after i put in right aileron. some help is much needed guys.

Practically all planes have some sort of wing rock in upright harriers. This is because the rudder is getting dirty airflow from the wing and prop. Try an inverted harrier and you will find it is much more solid. Also, the heavier the plane is for a given size, the harder it will be to harrier. Your patty was practically a lost cause for learning 3D, but the AM Yak, provided you are under 17 pounds (preferably 16), should be much easier to both hover and harrier.
As for still torquerolling even if you input aileron, there is either a problem with your technique or you don't have enough aileron throw, or both. Yo need at least 35 degrees of aileron travel, for one, and your inputs need to be quick ant almost full deflection, but only momentarily, and a blip of throttle at the same time will get more air flowing over the ailerons. Basically, as soon as you notice the plane start to rotate, apply full right aileron and a blip of throttle and release aileron. Keep repeating the process to maintain position. I have found that, if you are in a perfectly vertical hover and only slowly input opposite aileron, the torque will eventually take over.

[bodywerks]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Mike c.
	hovering is over rated. I thought if you can torqe roll, then you must be good. the truth is, its in your head. Mostly you can't hover real long is because your too high. trust me, its 10 time easier to hover down low than up high. I first did my hovers with a foamy, then the extra special on the g3 then my h9 twist. thats when kyle told me if I can hover a twist, i can hover almost anything. He was right.

You're right, hovering lower is easier. It's just the pucker factor you need to get over!

[youngflyer]

get a foamy. on the second charge i finally learned to bring it down on the deck and i touched the rudder....before i could on hover and climb slowly now i can hover like at no altitude!

[TheTank]

To stop the wing rock in the AM Yak, shift your cg back slightly, and make sure you have elevator throws of 45degrees or more. My Yak was 18pounds, and it flew like a feather. Plenty of power and extremely agile.

[50%plane]

The problem with the wingrock is keeping on top of it. you can do it if you're proficient enough and that comes through practice practice practice. Yak or any plane.


50%

[Edge540T_Flyer]

Adding a bit of spoileron (both ailerons up slightly) will also help slow the wing rocking.
You also must find that "sweet spot"... the angle of attack at which the plane harriers best.
And of course if you haven't already gotten it... practice, practice, practice!

[Freddy Warbird]

Holy cow! 50%Plane, put a bag over your Avitars head!I scrolled down and

[50%plane]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Freddy Warbird
	Holy cow! 50%Plane, put a bag over your Avitars head!I scrolled down and

sorry about that I had to decide between that or a bird until I finish my new avatar.