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Old 03-16-2007, 10:22 AM   #73 (permalink)
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John,

Tall grass is a great idea. Motors in front are better for the CG and get the prop in clean air. How about putting two outrunners on the front of the cannons. I recognize they were probably not stressed for it but the location is near ideal. With two motors you can use diferential throttle slaved from rudder for positive yaw control. I am doing it on a twin Pizza Box and it works great. 90% throttle, 10% rudder. I am not sure of the motor prop size, but you can get slow flyer 10X4.5 in reverse pitch and have them counter rotating for no torque. As for pitch and yaw, throw a FMA Co-pilot on top. It doesn't weigh much and should drop right into the existing radio setup. You can gradually turn it down and then remove it if you feel you can handle it. You can also use a piezo rate gyro on yaw hooked into the motor controllers, but the setup is more complex. I have done as much as 3 gyro's and a Co-Pilot to stabalize VTOL aircraft so I know it can be done.

Best of luck, and don't be to eager to crash. Warm weather, light winds, and tall grass will come eventually.

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Old 03-16-2007, 10:36 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Thrust vectoring........ That thing with four downblast nozzles that can be vectored fore and aft could make for some fun. Maybe you could even make a diverter gate inside to transition some of the thrust to rear exits.........Left right control could vary the escs from side to side and then fore and aft..........hmmmmmm

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Default Re: Scratch Built Snowspeeder!!!!!

build some thing like this,, only control with motor. hmmm

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...-park-jet.html

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A ducted fan version would be cool. You may want to create a vertical stab out of some clear plastic and see if it helps. Good luck!
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Old 03-16-2007, 01:02 PM   #77 (permalink)
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build some thing like this,, only control with motor. hmmm

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...-park-jet.html

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Thats what I was talking about!

I really like the idea of the 2 props on the guns. If done correctly it would still retain its scale apearance as well as increased stablity.
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there was one flown on rcgroups, it worked from what i seen,. good luck!
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It was a hovercraft flying under ground effect. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ht=snowspeeder
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Old 03-16-2007, 04:14 PM   #79 (permalink)
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John,

Tall grass is a great idea. Motors in front are better for the CG and get the prop in clean air. How about putting two outrunners on the front of the cannons. I recognize they were probably not stressed for it but the location is near ideal. With two motors you can use diferential throttle slaved from rudder for positive yaw control. I am doing it on a twin Pizza Box and it works great. 90% throttle, 10% rudder. I am not sure of the motor prop size, but you can get slow flyer 10X4.5 in reverse pitch and have them counter rotating for no torque. As for pitch and yaw, throw a FMA Co-pilot on top. It doesn't weigh much and should drop right into the existing radio setup. You can gradually turn it down and then remove it if you feel you can handle it. You can also use a piezo rate gyro on yaw hooked into the motor controllers, but the setup is more complex. I have done as much as 3 gyro's and a Co-Pilot to stabalize VTOL aircraft so I know it can be done.

Best of luck, and don't be to eager to crash. Warm weather, light winds, and tall grass will come eventually.

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R.D. ..... That is an awesome idea!!! This sounds like the ticket for the most stable condition.. I will start working on the layout this weekend and as you mentioned, the nice weather is just around the corner. I do have a Sports dome to try a few more tests in the mean time. I will let you know how it turns out. Man I cant wait to see this thing fly . Thanks for your help...

JimC-MD.....That is just sick, Like I need another crazy idea . Actually I was just talking with someone to do a harrier type aircraft. The snowspeeder would make a perfect candidate!!!


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Thanks for all the inspiration. My brain is starting to smoke... I will post some pics and video soon!!



pitviper51...That is the coolest thing I have seen. These are all good candidates for versions of the speeder. Thanks.
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that hover craft is SAAAWEEEEEETTTT... how about a helium lifted deathstar hehehe
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Whatever happened to this project?
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:18 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Oh man, he brought it to the ETOC in Toledo this past year, simply amazing. Interested as well.
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Thanks for the props Max....

Ion01..... it is collecting dust while several other projects took precedence. I still intend on getting it fly'n but need some inspiration to brush the dust off. Maybe Max will let me fly it at the halftime show next year, ha ha ha... as long as i can keep it under 100 mph..... I will post any updates hopefully with video. Thanks..

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I was watching starwars last night and it reminded me of this. Don't let the project die!!!!!!! Don't give in to the dark side!
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