I design your foamy!/ Also a thread for NEWBIES!

[Bamm-o]

Ok, this is the deal.

I want to design a foamy for you great people (Yes of course on CAD)

I'm going to start a poll with a couple ideas of designs and the one with the most votes wins. It's going to be with design categories like "Extra/Edge/Raven/" airplane styles. another category like "foamyristic bipes or monoplanes/F3P" etc... etc... anway.... You will see the polls.

I want to design a foamy (for you great people) that most people will be building out of 3mm Depron or similar foams. I also need to figure out what most people fly. Me, Myself and I usually only fly foamys around the 4oz-8oz range 31"-35" Wingspans. These specs are pretty much the cheapest to build and you can fly them mostly anywhere you want (including your bathroom) I also know that these designs to most people are "brittle and weak" but if you properly reinforce them these foamys are the best in crashes because the weight is so light that under it's own weight (not power) it usually doesn't break anything important that you need to have to fly the foamy. (I'm talking about like side cheaks breaking near the nose or counterbalances etc..) but yes they can BREAK! don't take my word for it that they "Can't break" because they can! but mostly under the foamys own weight (not power!)it shouldn't . I.E. you doing a stupid maneuver low to the ground and then you know it's going in.... CUTT THE POWER!




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The NEWBIE part of the thread \/



Ahh, what the heck.... I'm going to share my knowledge on foamys to help the people out who are newbies getting into foamys


I always get ALOT of questions on what to buy and what is the best or cheapest. So, hopefully this will ease things up a bit

I will bring this into the cheapest best foamy setup I know of and to the more expensive better setup I know of and what I use.


The cheapest setup I know of....

Cheap motor: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=4859

Suggested prop: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=4256

Cheap ESC: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=4317

Cheap Battery: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5465

Cheap Servos: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5457

Cheap reciever: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5206

If I was going to buy a cheap setup this is what I would buy. I never experienced the motor or ESC and battery in person but mostly every one I talk to about them have had great success with them. same with the servos and I tell you that the GWS pico 4channel is the cheapest and BEST! I love the GWS 4 channel picos. I'v always had great success even when cutting the antenna down to 6 inches! it's one great cheapo receiver. And this setup should be good for foamys that weight around 5-7 oz and with wingspans no bigger then 34" (actually, you can use a bigger foamy it just depends on how light you get it)

And if you want to buy this setup here is a detailed list of every thing you will need to complete a foamy.

hexTronik 24gram Brushless Outrunner 1500kv
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=4859

hexTronik PRO 10A BESC
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=4317

HXT 8mm Alloy Motor Mount 2.5g
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5217

3mm Prop Saver
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=3738

GWS EP Propeller (DD-8040 203x102mm)
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=4256

LM Loong max 500 3S1P 20C Lipo pack
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5465

4) EM 8g servos
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5457

GWS R4 PII JR 4Ch FM Pico Receiver 72mhz
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5206
Note: you will need to choose a crystal for your correct frequency in your transmitter.

Totaly Amount: $65.81 !!! Thats one heck of a deal for a good cheap foamy setup!.




Ok, here is my setup I am using now and recommend if you want quality products.

Motor: CustomCDR Single Stator "cool wind". This is one awesome motor! http://www.customcdr.com/cgi-bin/ccp...E:singlemotors

Suggested Prop: GWS 8x4. I come to find that this is the best and most efficient prop for this setup.

ESC: castlecreations ThunderBird 9. Never had one problem with their products. http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...nderbirds.html

Battery: ThunderPower 350mah 3cell - 480mah 3 cell. The best batteries out there (ThunderPower in general) http://www.rctoys.com/rc-products-ca...BATTERIES.html

Servos: I really go with alot of servos. It just depends on what I have and what is working. Right now I am using Hitec HS 55s because I bought them for a good price. but, the servos like what I listed above are good. The Eflite micro servos are good... I'll give a link for the newbies that just don't know what to choose http://www.rctoys.com/rc-toys-and-pa...EC-SERVOS.html

Receiver: GWS 4 Channel Pico http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5206


This is the setup I highly recommend for quality products and that is for foamys around the 31" - 35" Wingspan and that don't weigh no more then 9 oz.






Ok, for the newbies. Here is a list of foamys that BOTH the setups will fit perfect and should have no problems flying them.




Eflite's Extra 260 foamy http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL2300

Eflite's Sobre foamy http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL1100

Eflite's Funtana 300 http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL1150

Eflite's Enticement F3P foamy http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL1175 Note: I do recommend using Eflite's 250 BL motor for the Enticement and a 2 cell 480mah ThunderPower Battery. The CustomCDR motor will work fine it will just be heavier then what Eflite recommends for weight. The Custom CDR would be good for flying the Enticement outdoors in windier conditions, and if you plane on doing this, be sure to not use the airbrakes on the ailerons. (This also goes for the cheapo setup)

Ikarus Shockflyer Edge 540T (this plane is ballistic with CCDR single and 350mah 3cell Thunderpower!) http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlin...=265&anid=5327

Ikarus Shockflyer Extra 330S http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlin...=265&anid=5325

Ikarus Shockflyer SuperStar http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de/onlin...85749.10354866

Now,these planes I recommend for Newbies getting into foamy flying because these kits come with easy to follow instructions and mostly all the hardwork is finished. But still, even for the experienced foamy builder, these are great foamys!


Hope this helps a bit

-Dan

[Bamm-o]

Also guys, this will be a design that hopefully you wll contribute to on building the foamy and flying it and reporting how it flys and if I need to make changes to the design.

Hopefully in the next few days we will get some good votes and I can start sketching. once I get a drawing down I will post the views so every one can see if they're interested in building it.

[HuckinChikn]

Sounds cool bro! I'm down for whateva, but these days Ive been into the slick
F3P designs. lets see what you come up with!
Ah yes, by the way...If you havent tried JR's new S185 servo, definately
check it out. That thing ROCKS! it weighs 6grams and centers perfectly.
not to mention SUPER fast:-)

[3D-Seth]

Id be happy to help with what I can, as long it is in the 3D/F3P range. I've designed a few (5 I think this past winter), and I have a basic idea of what needs done to improve flight performance. Just let me know!

Seth

[Bamm-o]

K guys, i'm gonna start working on some thing this week.

[ChrisBowker]

If there is enough interest I'd be willing to cut parts on my router if you are interested.

Chris

www.DarkSideModels.com

[Bamm-o]

Should I continue? -

[Bamm-o]

yeh-no? come on you FG freaks! lol

[HuckinChikn]

I say go for it! Maybe a tiny bit more side area on the bottom of the fusalage...
Lets see the wing!

[Wild Thang]

I'm working on some foamies with a friend as well. Hand drawn for now. My couzin is gona give me auto cad 2007 before long. We have a Yak drawn out right now.

Where do you plan ordering your foam at?

[Bamm-o]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Sp33d
	I'm working on some foamies with a friend as well. Hand drawn for now. My couzin is gona give me auto cad 2007 before long. We have a Yak drawn out right now. Where do you plan ordering you foam at?

Always order my foam from www.rcfoam.com great place and never had a problem with them.

Sorry guys, I havn't done much more to the foamy plan, I'v been to bussy getting ready for Top Gun and now we're here. I'll get back working on it soon.


Ohyeah, CAD is great for designing foamys. I can't even imagine designing a foamy without CAD I can't believe I used to just draw on the foam or paper lol. but, we gotta start somewhere.

[Wild Thang]

Cool, thanks. I was at Top Gun today.