FlyingGiants Foamy, IT'S ON!

[madmax]

Elie, NO BADASS!! You've got enough press around here!

[TonyThomasian]

oooooooo. thats got to burn.... LOL.

[dylwad]

Flying weight should be around 16-21 ounces, I dont have any personal experiance with e-flite outrunners, but if kept light the 400 should haul it around fine.

For sick power, find out a way to get 250 or so watts through a 13x6.5 APCE 3+LBS of thrust with enough pitch speed to look impressive when not torque rolling. This is what makes geared inrunners shine. Ill be setting mine up with a Lehner 1020/17 or a Neu 1105 something or other, and most definately a Quark 33 ESC.

Jason weighed the foam in comparison to the 36" yak and this is about 1 1/2 ounces heavier, and the yaks usually end up around 14 ounces RTF. Some real weights coming soon.

Would you guys rather have pull-pull or push-pull on the tail?

Dylan

[dylwad]

also,
What servos is everyone planning on using? My first 40"er used /hs55's and they got alot of blowback, even with good geometry in the linkages.

One more while im at it. Do you guys want control horns cut and drilled for T-REX ball links? super smooth slop free on a foamie, the kit from align is around $5 for the balls links and rods.

Dylan

[bodywerks]

I would prefer push-pull for ease of setup.
As for supersmooth ball links, it's a foamy, and while maybe not a typical foamy, I don't think they will improve the feel very much.
As for servos, I try to use HS-56's or HS-65's. If it can be built to 16 ounces, the 56's should be more than enough. I think the ideal motor for this will be the 20L, either a knockoff or an actual Hacker. It is light and runs well with the E-flite 20 amp and a 1320. I put them in all my 16 ounce foamies and profiles and have accelerated vertical out of a hover with a 10X4.7 SF prop.
Sure, 250 watts/pound is nice, but only if it doesn't affect wingloading or smooth control during a hover. I get about 175-180 watts easily outa the 20L's - that's 11 watts to the ounce, which is just about right.

[snap a saurus]

	Quote: Originally Posted by MadMax
	Elie, NO BADASS!! It's not all about you.. You've got enough press around here!

Maxy
BAD ASS is here to stay, like it or not and unfortunately for you SNAP A SAURUS also, after all, it was you who created that monster, you came up with that name and it is mine now, I am not only putting BAD ASS on my FG foamy but I am also putting SNAP A SAURUS and I am issuing a challenge for a foamy showdown with you for next year's Huckfest or any other event you may choose, I will even let you set the rules, demolition, torque rolling, IMAC, you name it, you got it, and this will be on and not forgotten, the SNAP A SAURUS BAD ASS FLYING GIANT FOAMY versus the wimpy MAD MAX foamy. What do you say to that boy?

[Boulder]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bodywerks
	I would prefer push-pull for ease of setup. As for supersmooth ball links, it's a foamy, and while maybe not a typical foamy, I don't think they will improve the feel very much. As for servos, I try to use HS-56's or HS-65's. If it can be built to 16 ounces, the 56's should be more than enough. I think the ideal motor for this will be the 20L, either a knockoff or an actual Hacker. It is light and runs well with the E-flite 20 amp and a 1320. I put them in all my 16 ounce foamies and profiles and have accelerated vertical out of a hover with a 10X4.7 SF prop. Sure, 250 watts/pound is nice, but only if it doesn't affect wingloading or smooth control during a hover. I get about 175-180 watts easily outa the 20L's - that's 11 watts to the ounce, which is just about right.

I agree with you, however, I may try one of my Hacker B20-15L's, running an APC 11x4.7. It seems to be able to handle the slightly heavier plane a little better, up to 20 oz. or so. The HS-65's are the servo I would chose, though slightly heavier, would handle the larger control surfaces better. I also would like the push-pull for simplicity, but with an option for pull-pull for lighter motors, to help with the CG.

just my .02

[bodywerks]

That's a geared setup, though, right? I don't do geared setups - outrunners only for me!

[Ion01]

If I can keep the flying wieght at around 16 ounce the speed 400 should be great as it is light and with a 12x6 prop on the eflite ultimate fx at 16 ounces weight the 400 worked great! I can't wait to get one.
Also, as for toning down the fg scheme I don't think you should. Or you could have a toned down one for everyone else and then the regular one for the FG members!

[Boulder]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bodywerks
	That's a geared setup, though, right? I don't do geared setups - outrunners only for me!

Yes it is geared. I wouldn't go out and buy one, but I just happen to have 2 from the days before Hacker came out with their outrunners. I also have an A20-20L, but it's on my son's foamy.

[karlwatt]

Sweeeeeeet! I like the 1st and 4th schemes - yellow and red. When can I order one?!!

[asher]

I must give some props out here to Dylan (AKA Dylwad) He does my cad work and is a major influence on all my designs. Interlocking and tabbing is first class. The work he does is just incredible! Without him Insane wouldn't be quite so Insane. Thanks Dylan