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| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Egg Harbor City, NJ Age: 40
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Some guys make it like if you don't buy a certain brand then you shouldn't fly. I try to tell people a good item for the buck and what $$ range they can afford. Some guys act like if you don't own a Desert ********-50R them you shouldn't own anything because everything else is junk. Ok, enough of that. I use all standard size high tourqe servos. In my 50cc + planes I run Hitec HS5955TG. ( $90.00 a servo ) They are not needed in a 26cc plane. It will depend if you want, a digital or analog servo. Digitals can be programed, reveresed, etc. But you would need to have a programmer to do these things. Analogs servo are you basic servo. A good analog servo i would recommend is the Hitec HS625MG. It will give you good speed and tourqe ( 0.15 sec/60dgr , 95 oz in @6V) The Hitec HS645MG is stronger but slower ( 0.20 sec and 133 oz in @ 6V ) Both of these are about $35.00 a servo Next would be Hitec ( digital ) HS5625MG and HS5645MG, faster and stronger but more $$$ ( $55.00 a servo ). JR and Futaba also have great servos. Just look for equal tourqe and speed. ONLY USE METAL GEARS. A 26cc gasoline plane I would look for tourqe in the 80-120 oz. in. range and a speed of 0.13 to 0.20 ( no slower then 0.20 ). I run all my stuff @ 6 volts 1650-2500mah and use two batteries for the RX. I also try to go digitals Hitecs, since I already have a programmer. My latest project is a Great Planes Super Stearman, a Fuji BT43EI, and all Hitec HS625MG servos, except one HS5625MG for the elevator. So after all that, your answer......... On a budget: analog HS625MG ( 0.15 / 94oz @ 6V ) and $35.00 each Not on a budget: digital HS5625MG ( 0.14 / 130 oz @ 6V ) and $55.00 each And if really not on a budget digital HS5955TG ( 0.15 / 333 oz @ 6V ) Titanium gears $90.00 each These are super strong standard size servos that can be used ( I would ) up to 100cc planes. Once you have them, you have them. Never complained about to strong of a servo before. | ||||||||||||||||||
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Oh, by the way. I would only go with a good name brand servo. JR, Futaba, Hitec Not some off the wall inexpensive e-bay servo. Personally, to much of a investment to take the chance. Anymore info, just PM me. Lets try to keep this thread going about the GF26I engine. Last edited by 2robinhood; 01-02-2008 at 07:28 AM. |
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| Gettin' Lower! ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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I have seen some videos on this thread, but that was with what looks like a pretty light model. So does anyone have any real information about how this engine is with a 70" plane? Around 9 pounds? Does it hover it? Does it pull out of the hover vertically? Whats the response like? Is it easy to tune? WHats the BEST prop for this engine???
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| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Egg Harbor City, NJ Age: 40
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OK, I just did the swap on my Seagull Laser 200. I weighted everything to do the swap and here is what the verdict is: OS Max 1.60FX ( 2 stroke ) with Bisson pitts muffler, Seagull stock aluminum motor mount, engine to mount bolts, mount to firewall bolts, prop and spinner. Total is 3lb. 3.2 oz. CRRC Pro GF26I with CRRC pro pitts muffler, custom made 2 3/4" stand offs, stand off mounting bolts, ignition, ignition battery and switch, prop and spinner. Total is 3 lb. 4.9 oz. I am going to use the same tank, so no differance there. So, an all out even exchange of motors ready to fly gained me 1.7 oz. and about 550 - 600 more rpm with a much better prop. OS with a 18 X 6 Master airscrew wood 7250 rpm. CRRC with a Xoar 18 X 6 wood 7800 rpm. When I get it up in the air, I'll let you guys know. Here is some video links of the Laser with the OS in it. |
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| Flyin' Around ![]() Join Date: Dec 2007
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Hi Guys!: My name is Eddy, I am from Argentina. I have a Seagull Ultimate 90, Flying Weight:9.2–10.6 lb, and a little gem GF26i. Is a good combination? Sorry my english and thanks!! PD: Any advice are welcome! |
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I just ran some differnt props on the CRRC Pro GF26I. I used a Hobbico tach and a digital scale . Engine was tuned to a Xoar 18 X 6. There was NO tuning done between any props. Here are the figures. Xoar 16 X 8 @ 8400 rpm with 12.2 lbs. of pull. Xoar 17 X 6 @ 8400 rpm with 13.3 lbs. of pull. Xoar 17 X 8 @ 7500 rpm with 11.5 lbs. of pull. Xoar 18 X 6 @ 7800 rpm with 12.1 lbs. of pull. APC 18 X 6W @ 7800 rpm with 12.4 lbs. of pull. Xoar 18 X 8 @7400 rpm with 11.0 lbs. of pull. |
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Hi! I want to put a Choke servo but the arm in the carburetor isnt in the correct angle. Can I modify the arm psoition? AND: Can I release the spring int the carburator (accelerator arm) to move freely and not stress the gas servo? Sorry my english and Thanks! Eddy Left Photo OPEN CHOKE Right CLOSED |
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| Gettin' Lower! ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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You can remove the spring... To fix the choke problem, why dont you make a horn out of aluminum and use a screw in the outer hole throught the horn. Make the horn the shape you need for the choke rod to connect to the servo with no problems.
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Hi Guys, Just wondering how this engine stacks up against the spe 26cc and the peak 26cc. I have been looking at some of the 25% combo offers from peakmodel, and these three engines are all available for the same price. Has anyone any experiece who could give a comparison or opinion. This would be my first venture into gas, so ahppy to take any advice. Iain. |
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| Gettin' Lower! ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Have a look at www.hobbycity.com and have a look at the XYZ motor... looks good. Maiden on one tomorrow hopefully...let you know how it goes...
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