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| | #229 (permalink) |
| Gettin' Lower! ![]() Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Orange County, USA
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Rcign, I believe your diagnostic is correct. The engine turns but there's not enough compression. I used a high torque electric starter and I couldn't even get a single pop. The engine is dead and it only took just under a gallon. Kinda frustrating.
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| | #230 (permalink) |
| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisville,KY Age: 50
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On my latest gas engine a DL 50, I had to OPEN the high end needle to get more rpm. About 200 more ! This told me it was very lean from the factory. Even though this is the first time I ever richened a factory setting to get more RPM makes me a believer to always check. Either way the factory settings have never been "right on" for my location and fuel mix. I should note I've only owned about 10 or so gas engines (model) so I am far from any kind of expert. |
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| | #231 (permalink) |
| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Williams, Az USA
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If the cylinder isn't destroyed the piston and rings from a Zenoah or Chung Yang 26 will fit..I have one of the 50cc twins here, same exact cylinders...The piston from a G26 looks to be a perfect fit... I can probably fix it for about $40 plus shipping if nothing else is bad.....
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| | #233 (permalink) |
| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Middletown, Delaware Age: 32
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It is possible that the pin came out. I had it happen once to me on a 2 cycle motorcycle and it is not pretty. In my case the pin popped out and somehow snagged on the exhaust port. How can it even come out unless there is to much piston to cylinder wall clearance? This is a manufacturing defect correct?
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| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Williams, Az USA
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There are two types of pins and 3 ways to install... One pin is centered in the ring groove, G26 thin ring type..the ends of the ring fit over the pin.. The other two are halfway in the groove and halfway in the piston..The ring has a quarter round shape on the end and almost touches together at the ends and fits under or over the rest of the pin.. Most of these have the pin in the top half of the groove, but a few are in the bottom...Works the same either way.... Some pins are long enough to go all the way through the piston wall and can be seen on the inside..Most are just a tight press fit in the piston... The clearance between the piston and cylinder wall should be 2 to 3 thousandths..The pin would have to be really loose and short to fall out...
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| | #235 (permalink) |
| Gettin' Lower! ![]() Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Orange County, USA
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I'll see if I can get some pictures to show the piston, pin and ring. One thing I'm certain of, the pin doesn't go all the way to the outside of the piston and the ring is way too loose and rotates freely, even over the pin area. Something is really wrong.
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| | #236 (permalink) |
| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Middletown, Delaware Age: 32
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It should rotate freely in the groove when its not compressed. Put it back in the cylinder and look thru the exhaust port and see how much up and down movement you have between the ring and piston. If its a sloppy fit then maybe that would explain why the pin came out.
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| | #237 (permalink) |
| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Williams, Az USA
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The pin should not be flush to the outside of the piston...If the ring rotates over the pin it's not sticking out far enough to engage the ends of the ring...With the ring on the piston and in the cylinder there is only about .005 between the ends of the ring, and it can't move back and forth over the pin..
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| | #239 (permalink) |
| Flyin' Around ![]() Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Holland, Michigan
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| Start again, accidently bumper the wrong key, anyway I crashed an extra that had been crashed and given to me, and missed a defect in the right stab on my rebuild. My GF26i works great well did, until the tail feathers blew apart in the sky. Had only one servo for tail and she went straight into the ground did not have time enough to kill engine. Result great prop strike and other damage to engine, plane destroyed, radio ok so far on tests. Anyway am trying to figure out how to pull the prop driver from crank, so I can inspect replace crank Made a puller out of aluminum bar and drilled a couple of holes in prop driver face, 10-32 threaded pulled , heated pulled did not move , the aluminum bar did, not heavy enough and finally pulled threads out of prop driver. If you have a great way or not so great way of pulling the same would be glad to hear from you Rich Last edited by flymoor; 04-19-2008 at 08:22 PM. Reason: change wording |
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| | #240 (permalink) |
| Flyin' Around ![]() Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Holland, Michigan
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Well my son in law took one look at the schematic of the engine parts and said did you try screwing off the pro p bolt from the crank, I said I don''t think you can do that without pulling the pro p driver first. He said do you have two nuts, I said yes. We went out to the shed put two nuts on it and screwed off the pro p bolt which locked the pro p driver on the shaft. Then simply used a dowel and hammer and one tap on the crank and it was out of the case. duh!! Well maybe this post will help someone else. The crank was badly bent. Will have to be replaced, and I will hear about this for quite awhile from my son-in-law. Rich |
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