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View Poll Results: Best airframe for Primarly Freestyle
3W 37.5% Yak 28 38.36%
Carden 40% Extra 330 7 9.59%
Carden 40% Edge 540 7 9.59%
Carden 40% Extra 260 11 15.07%
Dalton 40% Extra 260 20 27.40%
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Old 06-14-2007, 03:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok,I am going to get a new 40% plane and I need your help in deciding which one to get .The choices are based on a plane with the best aerodynamic design for both (Freestyle primarly) and IMMAC . Traits I look for in a good airframe are -a powerful rudder (drive out the bottom of a KE loop) -No or very minimal KE coupling from mild to extreme throw. - Must be under 40lbs. - No pitching in a tight flat turns inverted or upright. -Very nimble (not draggy and slow). -Crisp snaps that stop on a dime. -stable in TR and in all hi alpha attitudes. Please only reply if you have had prior experience with one of the 5 pole choices.

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I pick dalton based on popularity and seeing it be wringed out.
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Let me know when you find a plane like that - I'll buy one too!
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Let me know when you find a plane like that - I'll buy one too!
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Curious why you aren't considering the newer Carden 300 (midwing)?
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Curious why you aren't considering the newer Carden 300 (midwing)?
Hey neghbor! It crossed my mind. aw heck why not... Its so new I didnt think any one would have much experience with that one yet. How do you like yours?Can you compair it to any of the planes I have listed?

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Godfrey"s are good tooo!
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Godfrey"s are good tooo!
Godfrey, Sounds like Italian Mafia.Do you mean the Dalton Extra 300?Is that .....uh ,Godfrey?

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Carden 330 or Cap
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I really like my Aerotech 300.......though it wasn't one of your choices
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Default Re: The best 40% for me?

Here's my feelings:

From your "wish list":

"powerful rudder": Carden 300 has the strongest rudder I have ever flown. I have had the Carden 330 and two 3m Comp ARF Extras, have flown the Carden Edge. The 300 is stronger than any. Knife edge loops are a breeze. Point rolls and rolling manuevers-very, very good. Just breathe on the rudder.

"minimal knife edge coupling": I have 4% mixed in- rudder to elevator. This is, of course, also a function of CG. My CG is right on the recommended spot. 4% is, in my experience, not much.

"must be under 40lbs" Mine, with ZDZ Super 160 and MTW cannisters, weighed under 37lbs.

"very nimble, not draggy"- yes- it is not lumbering

"crisp snaps that stop on a dime"- mine snaps very quickly- the fastest snaps on any plane I have flown. Stops very quickly- this is a function of wing weight so keeping the wings light helps too.

"stable in torque roll and high alpha"- mine is set up for sequence flying only- no 3D rates so I haven't explored this. I have seen Albert Santiagos and his seemed to do both very well- perhaps he'll chime in. Rob Teseo as well.

Bottom line- my opinion- All the planes you list are great flyers. The Edge is probably more of a 3D plane and less of a sequence plane. The Carden 330 and 260 are both great- I would rank them 300 best, 260 right behind it then 330. The Dalton - also very very good.

Perhaps other factors will drive your decision- do you want to build or have some pre-fabrication? What plane do you like the looks best, etc.


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Ok,I am going to get a new 40% plane and I need your help in deciding which one to get .The choices are based on a plane with the best aerodynamic design for both (Freestyle primarly) and IMMAC . Traits I look for in a good airframe are -a powerful rudder (drive out the bottom of a KE loop) -No or very minimal KE coupling from mild to extreme throw. - Must be under 40lbs. - No pitching in a tight flat turns inverted or upright. -Very nimble (not draggy and slow). -Crisp snaps that stop on a dime. -stable in TR and in all hi alpha attitudes. Please only reply if you have had prior experience with one of the 5 pole choices.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Getcha a Wild Hare. Those things are amazing.
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