Carden YAK ARF from H9

[VPG]

First Giant

Hi Guys, I'm new to gas planes and have decided on giant scale to get my feet wet. After several months of exhausting research I've settled on the H9/Carden 89 YAK and put one on reserve from my LHS. I do keep second guessing myself and wonder if I should tone it down and start out with something a little smaller like a .90 or 100. But I do prefer to stick with 2stroke gas and not mess around with nitro. I've been flying all electric for a few years and feel that I've reached the singularity on the economics of electric flight. I don't want to make the same mistake with gas as I (Still do) with electrics which has been buy planes, fly them a couple times and move on, as these giants do cost a little more. I do have a 40 YAK and love it; it’s my favorite 3D so I figure out of all the YAKs this seems like the best balance between cost, readiness and size.

So my question is; for an intermediate RC'er who is looking to jump into gas, is this Giant size Carden YAK a good candidate?

Thanks

[Scott Gerber]

VPG,

50cc class is a perfect place to jump into the gas world.The cost of materials, size for transporting and the intimidation factor all are doable when moving up from glow. There are a multitude of choices of planes to choose from in this class, the Yak is a favored one by many. Of those, in my opinion, the Carden design is the best design when it comes to strength and style over any other kits or ARF's. Also, an ARF will get you in the air much quicker than a build up unless that's not important and you like to build. I believe this new Hanger9/Carden ARF is worth waiting for no matter how long it takes to get here. Find something cheep and easy to fly until it gets here...!!!!


Scott

[mflander]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Scott Gerber
	VPG, 50cc class is a perfect place to jump into the gas world.The cost of materials, size for transporting and the intimidation factor all are doable when moving up from glow. There are a multitude of choices of plans to choose from in this class, the Yak is a favored one by many. Of those, in my opinion, the Carden design is the best design when it comes to strength and style over any other kits or ARF's. Also, an ARF will get you in the air much quicker than a build up unless that's not important and you like to build. I believe this new Hanger9/Carden ARF is worth waiting for no matter how long it takes to get here. Find something cheep and easy to fly until it gets here...!!!! Scott

What he said.

[speedmaster1972]

scott now all thay need is a 40% hehe i got me one orderd for a back up plane and i am going to put the 3w80 xi in it .. wonder if thay will have one @ the nall????i am flying out next week

[Mike Anderson]

	Quote: Originally Posted by VPG
	I'm new to gas planes and . . . . I've been flying all electric for a few years and feel that I've reached the singularity on the economics of electric flight.

I am in exactly the same place you are. Only fly electrics and want a big plane and have concluded a big electric isn't worth the trouble & expense. This is my first IC-powered plane.

[mflander]

If I can offer a bit of advice to you guys coming from electrics(I flew glow for years but now only have electrics and gassers).

Vibration. Get used to it and plan for it accordingly. Electrics over the years can make a man lazy when maintaining an airplane because of so much less vibration. When you go to gas, use locktite on EVERYTHING metal to metal, and check everything over every few flights. Even the wood joints and such. Vibration will tear your airframe apart over time if you are not inspecting your airplane properly.

Again, I don't want to make it sound that bad, because it isn't if you properly maintain the airplane, but if you just fly and fly and fly and fly without checking everything very often, then eventually the vibration will cause something bad to happen!

My 55" extra 300(electric) has well over 50 flights on it and I don't think I have even had a screw attempt to come loose or even had a wood joint weaken. My 96" extra with a da-85 on the front has had several of both. Nothing major or wrong with the airframe, you just have to make sure you catch it before it is a problem.

Enough said! Welcome to gassers and giant scale planes, you'll love them! After flying a giant scale planes, the little ones just don't have the same fun factor anymore .

[VPG]

Mike, so I take it your going for the Carden YAK too; I've previously considered the GP SU-31 but obviously the Carden YAK seriously outclasses it and most anything else in the 25-27% class. I figure anything else would be a detour and either way I'd end up with the carden yak anyway.

[VPG]

mflander, that's an excellent suggestion. Your right, I always check out the mechanical points but typically take for granted the airframe integrity. Thanks for the pointer.. Roger

[VPG]

mflander, BTW: my wife made a deal with me; as long as I don't limit her shoes and shoe shopping, she doesn't limit my flying and plane shopping :P

[Mike Anderson]

	Quote: Originally Posted by VPG
	Mike, so I take it your going for the Carden YAK too; I've previously considered the GP SU-31 but obviously the Carden YAK seriously outclasses it and most anything else in the 25-27% class.

Yes I'm on the Carden Yak victim - I mean backorder - list. I was also looking at the GP Su31 but they gave it a a one-piece wing!!! Fools. No idea how many they're selling. 2 club-mates have GP Yaks and they love them.

I wanted something with ~1400 to 1500 sq inch wing area and the Carden Yak is pretty much the only thing in that class I could get from the LHS. Shipping planes to me in Canada from Somenzini or 3D hobbyshops or AirWild etc was going to add about 50% to the list price. Fugedaboudit.

I'm really looking forward to my second flight on the Yak - if you know what I mean.

[VPG]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Anderson
	I was also looking at the GP Su31 but they gave it a a one-piece wing!!!

Ya, the size and transport factor doesn't bother me so much but the flipping it upside down to setup at the local flying field seems like it would be a real hastle. That's actually the only reason I didn't jump on it because my LHS does have a SU-31 and the GP SU-26mm in stock. Obviously I have to wait for the Carden but the temptation of those other kits glaring at me everytime I walk in is tough. I've held out this long so I think I'm going to make it

Speaking of the SU-31 the Realflight Expansion pack 5 came out this week; the GP SU-31 flys really nice on it! To bad it won't run on G3.5

[flynz4me]

	Quote: Originally Posted by VPG
	Mike, so I take it your going for the Carden YAK too; I've previously considered the GP SU-31 but obviously the Carden YAK seriously outclasses it and most anything else in the 25-27% class. I figure anything else would be a detour and either way I'd end up with the carden yak anyway.

I would probably go as far as to say the Carden outclasses EVERYTHING in the 25-27%... What else is there in this size???