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| Swiss Miss ![]() Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Age: 16
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Depends what style of airframe your looking for the basic theory I have behind planes is Extra's fly fast and land fast especially the 260, Edge 540's are the kings of High alfa in most areas, yaks have a lot of drag and fly a lot slower, some good brands to look at also are Extremeflight, Wildhare, Aeroworks, Dietrich which I see your already looking at and some others that are similar there are tons out there. Pick something thats got good reviews, and if your going to go 100cc which I don't recommend for a leap in to giants scale they usually run twice as much as 50cc. I'm sure there's a forum somewhere for the aeroworks 50cc edge you just have to find it and you'll probably see some answers there.
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| Flyin' Around ![]() Join Date: Oct 2009
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Perhaps the Yak is something I should consider. I have a little extra 300 with a .70 4-stroke, and that thing has to come in really hot. Of course, I built it from scratch, and it came out too heavy. I'm looking to to learn 3D and more advanced aerobatics. Perhaps the YAK (or something slower) would allow me to learn more quickly instead of something that is lightning quick. |
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| Swiss Miss ![]() Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Age: 16
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An edge would be a really nice plane to learn 3d on because you can usually slow them down quite a bit, for the yaks they are airframes that physically have just lots of drag because of the round cowl like a sukhoi but generally are very good.
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| hbmtr ![]() Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: lake tahoe ca. Age: 45
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my first gas plane was a aw extra with a da 50. i went from a sig senior kadett to the extra after 3 months of flying along with some good instruction. u will find small differences with all the planes. once u go giant scale u wont look back.your other option is to go with a 85cc.chief still has qq101inch yaks for 600.00.buy a used da 85 send it back to da for a ck up,so u know every thing is ok. |
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| WHATS CRACKALAKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wentzville, MO Age: 33
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A 50cc edge was my first giant scale plane and it was a great platform to learn. If you are not opposed to going larger have you thought about the 85cc Extra 260 that they sell? It is a little larger so it present much larger in the air. It still uses single servos like the 50cc would, the airframe is about $100 more and the motor is about $200 more. Besides that you pretty much outfit them the same. Now when you want to go bigger your 85 will fly a lot of the 35% planes out there and you just have to buy a couple more servos.
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| Flyin' Around ![]() Join Date: Oct 2009
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How does the Edge and the Extra 260 compare in terms of flight characteristics? They seem like they would be similar. LEEPORD GEKO says that you can slow an Edge down a little more to make it easier to learn (I assume). I wonder if there is an Edge that is a little bit larger than the AW 50 cc Edge 540, but something that would except an 85 cc engine? |
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| Uber Contributer ![]() Join Date: Dec 2007
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I wouldn't worry too much about specific model type (Extra, Edge, etc). The differences between them are much smaller than the differences between different designs and manufacturers. Just choose a plane that appeals to you that comes from a company with a reputation for quality, easy to assemble, great flying airplanes and have a blast. In that case, the AW 50cc Edge fits the bill perfectly. In my opinion, Aero-works makes airplanes that are fool-proof to build, easy to fly, and very durable so anything that they make will be an excellent choice for a first-gasser experience. They are also constantly refining and improving their ARF's so I would be more apt to choose one of their planes based on how new the design is (such as the Edge or the Extra 300) than what type it is (assuming your not already sold on a specific type because of the way that they look). |
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| Bad-ass Super Contributer! ![]() Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: toledo ohio
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agreed. call the manufactor and ask them questions on it. there design might have different traits built in that you don't want. like one company may have a edge that excels at 3d and an extra that don't and another might have a extra that excels at 3d and a edge that don't. pick out something you like and call the manufactor. for instance iv'e always heard that yaks 3d very well. i wanted a 3d imac plane and aw told me there extra 3d's better than the yak but the yak imacs better.
__________________ aeroworks 50cc yak DLE 55 ![]() aeroworks 100cc extra 300 DA 100L Last edited by jamesrxx951; 10-28-2009 at 10:45 PM. |
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| Bad-ass Super Contributor! ![]() Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: t.u.f.f.
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Aeroworks extra may 3d better than thier OWN 540. but GENERALLY SPEAKING across the board the 540 blows all extra's out on 3d.(espically high alpha). extra's do 3d but not nearly as well as 540's. |
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| Swiss Miss ![]() Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Age: 16
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Well I can say from the vids on the 540 with the added 100sq" it should 3d better and none of them are a bad choice, I have the new 300 50cc from them which flies awesome once you get the CG fixed! lol and I can see your looking at engines choices in another thread you don't need anything other than a dle 55 dl 50 or da 50 just go with one of those I would recommend the DLE 55 since I was vary linent about getting a Chinese engine but have defiantly surprised and it out performs my friends Da-50 or at least doesn't have the weird low idle inverted issue. Good luck and I'm sure you'll find the right airframe and engine choice check out the gasser threads on how to tune them as well. |
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| Team Xtreme [Test Pilot] ![]() Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lahore, Pakistan
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I think just make sure that plane has a wing area atleast above 1450 sq inches, and weight should be not more then 17.5lbs all up. and i dont mean the manufacturers weight but weight that is quoted by people who have built one. Lighter planes, with larger wing area would be easier and more comfortable to fly and will give you more confidence. Ultimately larger planes are usually easier to fly, compared to your little extra 300 any 50cc gaser should be a dream. btw my first gaser was a Yak 54 with a wing area of 1350 sq inches and weighed in at 19.5 lbs. Was okay to fly, but it use to keep me on my toes all the time. and i never felt comfortable with it enough to bring it down to the deck. lastly, i know its getting long, work on your set up, C.G, Thrust, Lateral Balance, Control throws. !!!! |
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