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Old 07-29-2006, 09:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up 22 and 23 inch Vess Props are shipping!

Hello All,

The response to Vess Propellers has been tremendous and I want to thank everyone for their support. And it's great to hear that they are working well in so many applications!

I know that many of you have been patiently waiting for sizes to fit 50-60cc class airplanes and finally the wait is over. The new 22A-C and 23A-C sizes are now shipping! You can visit the online store on our website (www.vessaero,com) right now and place your order 24/7 for immediate delivery. Also, Desert Aircraft is being stocked right now and will be available to take your phone orders very soon.

I thought you would appreciate some indication of what seems to be working for some of the many different aircraft/engines we have tested so here's a few examples for reference. It seems that good 45cc engines like the Evolution 45 are quite happy with a 22A. The first attached photo shows Jeff Holsinger's H9 Extra 260 with this engine/prop and a large-volume cannister muffler. I have personally flown this airplane and have found that it has unlimited vertical and sounds like an electric (VERY quiet). The second photo shows Tim Squire's Wild Hare Edge with a DA on a Slimline (I think) muffler. I recall Tim said that this airplane weighs about 18 pounds and it works very well with a 22B. Again, I have flown it and, although the vertical is not unlimited at this weight, it is very respectable and the combination fits Tim's flying style very well. The third photo depicts the beautiful Carden Cuda of Josh Bunn. This cleaner airframe seems to benefit well from a little larger prop and Josh and I both prefer the 23A on his DA with a "Pitts-type" muffler. This combination gives a constant speed feel and it hovers very nicely.

Although I don't have pictures, I should also note that tests on the popular 85" Yaks like Dustin Hedrick's Quique version or Jay Benson's Aviation Models one both seem to show a preference for the 23A for all around 3D type and sport flying.

Obviously, the slightly higher load prop sizes like the 22C and 23B/C might better absorb the extra power available from some of the larger displacement engines in the 55-60cc range. But overall, we have tried to provide several options with these two diameters with three pitch-series each so that you can tune your setup to match your particular needs and flying style.

I hope that you enjoy these new props and look forward to hearing your comments! Stay tuned for more new props to come..........

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Old 07-29-2006, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: 22 and 23 inch Vess Props are shipping!

So what would you recommend for a 3W 56 for someone at 5000 ft.? I recently switched from a 22X10 to a 23X8 and the difference was night and day. But I think I could get even more out of one of your props.
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Default Re: 22 and 23 inch Vess Props are shipping!

I got a BME 50 on a 18# Extra at 3000 ft. Would the 22A be good or the 22B?
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Old 07-30-2006, 01:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: 22 and 23 inch Vess Props are shipping!

Hi Robert can you ship props to Mexico ? I need one 27B and one 22A and 23A I'm try online store
but the checkout doesn't work (Error code: MER-MMU-00043 Shipping Selection is required and
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ben,

The 3W should certianly have extra power compared to 50's due to it's added displacement. But when you are at high altitude where the air is thinner, you need less prop load (whicih give higher RPM) than at lower altitudes. So I'd say that you will want to try the 23A.

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I'd say you would want to unload your prop a little too since you're at 3000 feet. We are at about 600 feet MSL in Raleigh, where we do our test flying and even at real high temperatures, the density altitude is never much above 2000 feet. So the 22A would probably be a good place to start with your 18 pound airplane.

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There should be no problem shipping to Mexico since I use UPS. PM me and we'll work out this problem.
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I have an Evolution 58 on my yak about 17.5lbs what would you reccomend? I was thinking 23b or c I am currently swinging a mejzlik 24/10 at about 6900 rpm's
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Greyhoundman,

As a point of reference, I have been testing pre-production 24 inch Vess Props and my 24B has made a Zenoah GT-80 powered H9 Extra really wake up! I'd say that plane weighs about 25 pounds with that motor.

Your Evolution 58 on a 17.5 pound airframe would probably like a 23C since you tend towards the higher powered end of the spectrum and have shown that you can turn a 24x10. And if you want more RPM, the 23B would be your choice. You may find that these props don't tach amazingly high on the ground but fly them and feel the "pull" before you judge static rpm.
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Thanks I'll be ordeing a 23C soon.
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Default Re: 22 and 23 inch Vess Props are shipping!

I'll take on....
QQ YAk with DA 50.. You say the 23a for 3d...would that be the correct prop for IMAC style flying with that airframe???
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Default Re: 22 and 23 inch Vess Props are shipping!

Okay - I'm at 1360 ft elevation in Iowa & have a BME Edge 540 with the BME 50cc on the front with a pitt style muffler. Hover pull out hasn't been too impressive with the BME 22x8 and 21x8 so far. I'll be done with the break in fuel in about 5 more flights though. Would the 22A or 22B be the right prop? I don't know the weight, but probably 16-17 lbs?
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Exeter..,

We did some more flying with the 23A on a 18 1/4 pound AM Yak with DA 50 in very hot air yesterday and I must say that the 23A was very impressive on that airplane for 3D. The pull out of the hover was quite awesome for that weight. If you tend to fly a very modest-paced style that's very constant speed then the 23A or B would probably work well. But if you fly large and faster like I see alot in IMAC (better in wind for sure), then I think you will want the 22B or maybe even the 22A.

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If you can turn it on your BME, I'd recommend the 23A for hover pullout authority. The DA turns it very well but I haven't tested on a BME. If you think you need a little less load, go with the 22A.

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Default Re: 22 and 23 inch Vess Props are shipping!

Guys I have a question. I have a rebuilt DA 50. I was flying a PT Models 23X8 prop and it was working out great but the DA has been rebuilt so I need to break it in again.

I want to order a Vess prop but....

Would I be OK breaking in my DA 50 with the 23X8 or a 23 A vess propeller or should I buy a 22A or a 22B prop to break in the DA 50 with????

Would the 22A be best or the 23B. It is going on an 18lb Aviation Models Yak.
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