Which and how to do this 3D maneuver ?

[rcflyer]

Hi guys,

I am trying to learn this maneuver using AFPD but have not been successful I have a short video clip of the maneuver here http://www.flyinggiants.com/gallery/...1&limit=recent What's this maneuver called? I would appreciate it if I could get some tips on how to perform this maneuver. TIA !

[bodywerks]

It's a tight harrier circle. Full up elevator (3D rates), a significant amount of right rudder, and work the throttle and opposite aileron to keep the wings level.

[Breakstuff5050]

thats a pretty sweet manuever, i think planes usually do them easier inverted, but its more confusing, and i think the type of plane can make this manuever easier or harder.

[analog_boy]

yeah bodyworks has got it right takes quite a bit of throttle work and some quick reflexes.

[Breakstuff5050]

VERY quick, and consistent

[GremlinX]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bodywerks
	It's a tight harrier circle. Full up elevator (3D rates), a significant amount of right rudder, and work the throttle and opposite aileron to keep the wings level.

Not much rudder happeing in that vid of Chris H flying... Hmmm. I've seen it both with a lot and a little rudder... I think he turns it more with just banking and pulling back and keeping it going that way.

[rcflyer]

Hi guys, thanks for all the quick replies! In AFPD, I tried entering the maneuver from a flatspin (in 3D rates), while managing the throttle and aileron. I increased the elevator throw to 60 deg (max) as well. The plane still wants to spiral downwards, and is quite snappy. Can someone make a video with G3 showing the stick work as well? This is a maneuver I hope FG's groundschool will cover

[rcflyer]

Mopar, you're right. I extracted that from Chris' video. Should have mentioned that earlier. Thanks

[Breakstuff5050]

Ill make a vid of g3, i think g3 is a little easier then real life, but its awesome to practice.

[rcflyer]

Thanks Breakstuff !

[3d-aholic]

To me this looks more like just a plain old unright flat spin with decreased/reduced throttle to keep it from spinning up which is probably what that plane would do listening to the engine. If the plane spirals down, you have too much rudder.

[Matchless]

In the vid, the plane is simply flying a harrier in a tight circle (looks good doing it too!)..... To do this, just fly a harrier and begin kicking in more rudder with counteracting aileron to balance it.... The more rudder (and counteracting ail) you add, the closer the maneuver will come to a true upright flatspin- usually takes an increase in throttle and sometimes an increase in elevator deflection....
In AFP, I find the Comp Arf Yak 55 and the various GS Extras do this maneuver pretty well.....