New JR Servo.. WOW!

[Kiwi]

Rappy,

As a reseller I assure you you it's not like that at all. Dealer pricing vs recommended market price is close to 10% most times and rarely 15% markup. Trust me mate its not a business to get rich in.

Kiwi

[3dubya]

Yer model shop owners only drive luxury cars when they take a second job as a valet.

[MalaysianFlyer]

My LHS owner let me have a look at his copy of WINGS, the JR newsletter/magazine. The 8711 is listed at 16,800 yen, (same price as the 8511/8611). I believe that the best deal for these is probably troybuiltmodels.com

Bear in mind that over in asia we are paying about USD130 per servo, and thats the version WITHOUT the heatsink that was made for the US market.

I suspect you guys can will find that they wil be priced at the same as the Hitec 5955's as thats what these servos are supposed to compete against.

[Joshua Ziering]

Rappy,

Tell your friend to buy a hobby shop if believes that. As someone who prices a lot of crap at the LHS, I can tell you, hobby margins are NOT like that. If they were, I'd ask for a raise.

Josh

[Edge 540]

Definitely not. I wonder how some of these places are getting away with packing, selling and shipping 5955s for $90-$95. They must sell a lot to make it worth it.

[as722]

	Quote: Originally Posted by RappyMan
	I've heard that servos are about $15 from the mfg - the distributor bumps that to $60 or so & the end seller bumps that to the $120 range. "I heard it from a friend".... so there's no proof behind this!

Actually the local hobby shop pays about $80.00 per servo and they have to make money on it too.


Albert

[TeamFlatout]

Do we really need 400 oz's of torque per servo on our birds? My 40% with 8611's spins, rolls, pulls and dives my airplane with the littlest of ease. Why would you need 800oz's on an aileron of a 40%er?

[walkerk122]

	Quote: Originally Posted by TeamFlatout
	Do we really need 400 oz's of torque per servo on our birds? My 40% with 8611's spins, rolls, pulls and dives my airplane with the littlest of ease. Why would you need 800oz's on an aileron of a 40%er?

Maybe not 800 oz's on ailerons but one elevator servo with 430 oz's is pretty sweet in my opinion

[Biff]

Do we need more inch ounces of torque, more CC's, bigger kits, more channels in our transmitters, bigger trailers, faster chargers, dual spark plugs, over night shipping, instant glue and more Extra 260/Yak kits and ARF's ? YUP!! It's all about what the market will bear. As far as cost goes welcome to the hobby.

Really, getting upper end servos in the $100-$125 range ain't bad. At 400 inch ounces of torque, we are looking at 1 servo per side on ailerons/elevator on 100CC airplanes. 2 servos per side on ailerons and 1 per elevator on a 40%. Complain about cost? Not me baby, I'm saving money!

I don't care what brand you fly, if you're able to save money by using fewer servos, you simply save money. If you only look at cost per unit and thinking you're getting a lower GI without lube, you're missing the big picture. Look at cost per AIRPLANE and you're probably more motivated to grin the go off! Use what torque you need for an application, don't just fill empty servo holes in your airplane.

Right now on a 35% 4 servos ailerons, 2 servos elevators, 2 rudder, 1 throttle.

with +/- 400 ounces 2 servos aileron, 2 elevator, 1 rudder (should work?) 1 throttle


Right now 40% 6 (minimum 4 ) aileron servos, 4 (minimum 2) elevator servos, 3 rudder, 1 throttle

+/- 400 ounce 4 aileron, 2 elevator, 2 rudder, 1 throttle


I'm certain all of the other brands will be coming out with more mega servos very soon. I think it's awesome! Using 1 servo per surface is going to make our job of setting things up far more easy. There are those who like redundancy, but it's been my experience that ganging servos has been the real cause of needing redundancy in the first place! Keep it simple works for me!

[Flyinrazrback]

I agree with Biff. The plane I am about to start on originally was designed for 4 JR 8411s on the rudder via pull/pull. Now I am going to use just 2 8711s on the rudder.

[RappyMan]

Apoligies on my earlier comment (thought I'd put enough disclaimer on it)

I've got a friend that took over a hobby store - didn't get rich and ended up having to close it. Margins on kits, engines & radios is really thin. Its the odds & ends (Dubro parts & glow plugs) where the margin seems to be at. I'd still love to know what the mfg gets paid for a servo (and they are making enough to stay in business.) I can see the 5955's being a bit more expensive to build with the titanium gears.

Thanks
Terry

[JimC-MD]

	Quote: Originally Posted by Edge 540
	Definitely not. I wonder how some of these places are getting away with packing, selling and shipping 5955s for $90-$95. They must sell a lot to make it worth it.

I do not know about the HiTech servos. I can tell you that normal pricing on the 8611a to a LHS is very close to the best deals you see on the net. The way it is done is on volume. If you purchase 25 or more at a time from the distributor you qualify for a discount on that item. That allows you to sell it for the "special" prices you see on the net and still make the same number of dollars per unit (roughly). You can see where there is quite a commitment to do this as they would have to order 2k plus dollars of one number to be in that market. You must have a good volume of those types of sales to justify the investment.

FYI, I ran a hobby shop years ago. Kits, engines, radios (big ticket items) were very slim margins as compared to the norm in retail. The money multipliers are the small parts. If a product was on special at the mail order sites of the distributors you purchased from they also had a special purchase price for the LHS to allow you to make the same dollars as the pre sale price. If you already had it in stock, you could replace your inventory with one of the lower cost units. If you did not have it already, looking through your special sheets, you would know what would be on a deal in the mail order business in the coming month. It worked, you just had to be sharp.

We had a small store, 1800 square feet, that did 1 million gross with two full timers and a couple of part timers. We were 90% RC with a little section of plastics and rockets. It was a fun time.