Question on rolling harriers

**heydick** · 01-07-2006, 01:14 PM

Why does the last half of my high alpha rolls snap? Am I holding too much rudder imput or eleavator imput or am I too early or late? Throttle management? I just don't know. Any advise is greatly appreciated.
d

**Kiwi** · 01-07-2006, 01:19 PM

Dook,

Off topic but that plane in your avatar is yours or one you had? And do you have a good size picture of it as that scheme is way too good not to be copied in some aspects.

Kiwi

**Wayne** · 01-07-2006, 02:03 PM

Sounds like too much Rudder and Maybe that the plane is not fully stalled while rolling.
Try more Elev and less rudder.

They key is to keep the plane stalled.

3D-Seth · 01-07-2006, 02:20 PM

	Quote:
	Sounds like too much Rudder and Maybe that the plane is not fully stalled while rolling. Try more Elev and less rudder. They key is to keep the plane stalled.

Exactly

Jaybird · 01-07-2006, 02:26 PM

Yep, slow that sucker down a little.
Brian

**Wayne** · 01-07-2006, 03:20 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by Jaybird
	Yep, slow that sucker down a little. Brian

Its not the speed of the plane that will help him keep it stalled, its the amount of elevator travel he uses when the plane is upright and inverted.

He'll find that once the planes stays stalled, the amount of rudder at the 90's will be far less than what he was probably using before.
(At least I did when I finally figured out how to do it)

**heydick** · 01-07-2006, 03:21 PM

Thanks guys that make perfect sense. Kiwi that's a Stevens Aero Edge 540 I built a few months back. Heres some other pics.

VIPER69 · 01-07-2006, 03:24 PM

Very nice scheme indeed DOOK. Very nice.

Jaybird · 01-07-2006, 06:30 PM

	Quote: Originally Posted by Wayne
	Its not the speed of the plane that will help him keep it stalled, its the amount of elevator travel he uses when the plane is upright and inverted. He'll find that once the planes stays stalled, the amount of rudder at the 90's will be far less than what he was probably using before. (At least I did when I finally figured out how to do it)

I'm just begining to figure it out! I see what you mean. I just thought he may have been carrying to much airspeed at the beginning of the harrier/roll.
Brian

Jaybird · 01-07-2006, 06:31 PM

BTW That covering job is BadASS!

YaKs are BeSt · 01-07-2006, 09:51 PM

keep that nose up and dont get ahead of yourself, you will nail it every time then!

hajaja · 02-23-2006, 10:50 AM

Fantastic scheme and perfect inspiration

01-07-2006, 01:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
heydick Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach CA. Posts: 987 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Question on rolling harriers Why does the last half of my high alpha rolls snap? Am I holding too much rudder imput or eleavator imput or am I too early or late? Throttle management? I just don't know. Any advise is greatly appreciated. d

01-07-2006, 01:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kiwi Bad-ass Super Contributer! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chile Age: 55 Posts: 4,602 Blog Entries: 4 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Question on rolling harriers Dook, Off topic but that plane in your avatar is yours or one you had? And do you have a good size picture of it as that scheme is way too good not to be copied in some aspects. Kiwi __________________ Kiwi www.crackroll.com

01-07-2006, 02:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Wayne Learn how to work Kid. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bloomington, Il Age: 40 Posts: 4,677 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Re: Question on rolling harriers Sounds like too much Rudder and Maybe that the plane is not fully stalled while rolling. Try more Elev and less rudder. They key is to keep the plane stalled. __________________ Team JR Desert Aircraft Fromeco Extreme Flight RC Aerographix SWB Built by Walt wgeffon@comcast.net

01-07-2006, 02:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jaybird Shake and Bake Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jay Florida Age: 34 Posts: 1,228	Re: Question on rolling harriers Yep, slow that sucker down a little. Brian

01-07-2006, 03:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
VIPER69 Met her in Baghdad... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Age: 39 Posts: 372 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Re: Question on rolling harriers Very nice scheme indeed DOOK. Very nice.


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01-07-2006, 06:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jaybird Shake and Bake Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jay Florida Age: 34 Posts: 1,228	Re: Question on rolling harriers BTW That covering job is BadASS!

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YaKs are BeSt The Burgur Lifestyle is kickas Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TEXAS Age: 19 Posts: 473	Re: Question on rolling harriers keep that nose up and dont get ahead of yourself, you will nail it every time then!

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hajaja Flyin' Around Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beroun, Czech Republic Age: 40 Posts: 5	Re: Question on rolling harriers Fantastic scheme and perfect inspiration

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