only if manufactures built like this

[Ion01]

Also, you have to remember a manufacturer is going to make things a lot stronger than they have to be because if a few people have problems then everyone throughs a fit. Any industry has to do this to protect themselves, especially when something is mass-produced. Whenever something is mass produced they never come out as good as the original.

[Breakstuff5050]

Plus the manufacturers have to worry about all the inexperienced pilots that will try flying the kit/arf.

[bodywerks]

	Quote: Originally Posted by fly boy
	like i sayed theirs still lots more work to do as as the manufacture thing well they simply built TO HEAVY my 48 inch katana was only 3.4 lbs now your saying any arf i buy is gonna be some wear between .5 to 1 lbs heaver. strong is not a issue simple build Strong but light. i used a dremal to cut out the sheeting. i don't like how a arf says a 40 size 3d plane but u need a 4 stroke 90 to 3d it.

Hate to disagree with you there. If you are getting heavy planes, you are buying from the wrong companies. I applaud your desire to build lite, but it seems you are trying to get a 40 size plane to fly like a foamy. It ain't gonna happen. Foamies are an entirely different design concept. All in all, a 4-4.5 pound 40 size ARF IS a feather. Also, the majority of ARF's nowadays are designed using CAD technology, and the fact that they are lazer-cut makes their parts fit nearly perfect, which increases strength. IMO, the only thing 99% of all ARF manufactureres can improve on is wood quality.
Anyway, good luck with your venture and keep us posted.

[Jaybird]

Flyboy don't let people discourage you. I wouldn't take on a project like this. Just finish the thing!
Brian

[MrKiwi]

do wat most poeple do, fly it, see wat needs to be improve, and build another, or just work on the original.

[fly boy]

	Quote: Originally Posted by SleepyC
	EVEn with sheeting, you need cross bracing in the fuse behind the wings. As soon as you have a less than feather landing that fuse will crack off right behind the wing. Its a problem in all the planes that look like that (flip 3d, and the UCD series) and those have decent support. as Mithrandir said.. some good cross bracing will help ALOT.

yes cross brazing will be done as well i don't know if any ones saw that the tail top piece IS NOT BALSA it is hard wood that piece runs throw the in tier fuse.
i got the landing gear stuff in now and is vary strong but sadly I'm losing interest so planes are on back burner once again.

i got nothing against arfs but iv never liked any that i bout so as fare as I'm concerned arf are heavy.
actually my buddy that has been flying for 20 years now will not buy a arf.
i hate to say it but id rather built than buy a arf but i agree to the point of view of the manufactures and like new pilots.
but any way we are out building thees arf.
but every one has their own apinion tho.

[3dubya]

I think its a work of art champ, a unique specimen of creativity kinda like a picasso, keep up the good work..

[Ion01]

I hope you didn't think I was being discouraging. I was just pointing out that when building a single custom aircraft, or anything, you can do things, that can't normally be done in poduction runs, that will make the custom aircraft better. Anyways, looking forward to your next update and I think you are doing great as I am an arf guy because I don't want to take the time and effort to build an aircraft.

[madmax]

Flyboy, good on ya dude!!! Keep that little sucker rollin'!!!

[excelpoint]

Fly Boy, top work dude, I cant build for sh%t so im impressed.

[airborneSGT]

Keep it going man. We all start from somewhere and while I can build arf's I dont have the kit building skills as my Asian relatives.

Almost makes me want to put something together just to say I did it! Rock on dude.

[Edge 540]

Along with control surface trusses, make absolutely sure that you put cross grain sheer webbing between the spars. Trust me its worth the weight!
Good luck.