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Old 09-07-2006, 02:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Then AFPD is a real crap since nobody can change lenght of chords at tip and root

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Old 09-07-2006, 05:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Wow..... I totally didnt aim to start a sim wars....

Dude someone knock up a foamie with the new layout and fly the damn thing! DOO EEET!
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:19 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by MSargent
Wow..... I totally didnt aim to start a sim wars....

Dude someone knock up a foamie with the new layout and fly the damn thing! DOO EEET!
A foamie can't say anything. I'd like to modify a Mojo .40 but I hate to build planes.

Is there anyone who likes my idea?

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Old 09-08-2006, 05:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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No.
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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In most forums I look for the ones that already tried the ideas, not for the one that want his idea tried by someone else.
It feels like I like a new car and telling someone to buy it and then ask how it was!!!!
To build a plane is hard, lots of time and effort, I have Mojo kits but don't want to risk a good kit just to satisfy your curiosity and if work right, then you going telling everybody that you are the creator of the concept. Remember what Edison said: Creation is 1% ideas and 99% hard work.
Ask Swany for a kit, hire a local builder and build the concept, take video and then show us. For sure we will applaud if it works and if don't at least your curiosity will be satisfied.
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Very well said!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bolio
For sure we will applaud if it works and if don't at least your curiosity will be satisfied.
Saludos.
If it doesn't work I would still respect you for giving it a shot.

Just make sure the video is running!

Also, if you get someone to try your idea let me know. I have some really crazy stuff I would like for them to try.

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Old 09-08-2006, 03:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Well, aerodynamically it makes sense. With a thicker cord, it stalls weaker. Thus, by making the tip with a longer chord than the root, the root stalls first, making the stall more controllable and making tip stalls a thing of the past. The downside is obviously to the roll rate. This is why wings are tapered on the tips. Less resistance to the roll.
 
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... The downside is obviously to the roll rate. This is why wings are tapered on the tips. Less resistance to the roll.
I've tested the roll rate with G3 and apparently there is no difference.

"This is why wings are tapered on the tips".
I think the reason of wings tapered on the tips is only structural.
Nobody have thought to build a plane according to my idea because it isn't good on the structural point of view.

I think it would be interesting to experiment my idea

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Do not believe at all in the simulator, they are good learning tools but don't represent the real world at all.
The idea for tapered wings is to distribute the lift in a more efficient way and decrease the wing tip vortice(sp) that increase the drag.
When it comes to aerobatics, the narrower tip allow for a faster roll rate and better roll dampening. Don't think that the simulator is good at recreating this small but tangible effects.
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The other thing to consider here is that in some ways (much the way Bolio described it) we are not trying to create stable airplanes, instead we are trying to create unstable airplanes (in very specific ways)
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:12 PM   #24 (permalink)
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But also, those drag-creating wingtip vorticies create lift, so, with a thicker tip, more lift is created at the wingtip, and thus, more stable harriers and other post-stall manuevers. Downside would obviously be increased drag (which with the kind of flying we do isn't necessarily a bad thing) and reduced roll rate.
 
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