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Old 01-25-2006, 11:00 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The Best Advice Chip Hyde gave to everyone is "If you want to learn a new trick, buy 100 gallons of fuel and practice"...

I learned the Rolling stuff by shear luck...j/k...but really I started with a slow rolling circle, then point rolls, then learning by rhythm, now by sight and feel, but to switch directions is where its at...

I did it on the AFP, over 120 hr.s, over and over again..then to the plane..

another trick is to obtain a comfortable roll rate with the stick buried, then its just a matter of timing and the correct amount and the correct inputs on all for points..

Hope this helps...but I'm no expert, just a sport flyer..
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I do a trick I like to call "Abortion". Its a 1/4 rolling harrier that drops altitude, into some kind of save. Man, just do rolling circles to your sick of them. Way up high. Soon you can see your plane going slower and slower, and your rudder and elevator are natural. Nothing but burning gas, glow, wiskey....whatever. AFP helps out as well, or G3, or any sim. Mare Leasburg is the Yoda, or Beavis, of rolling anything, and pisses me off when I see him doing it without even his butt cheaks puckered! Mine look like Im making a diamond! Also, I got better at them with a foamy. When you get them going, and all of the sudden its coming back around to full circle, you'll want to pull out. Dont. Pulling out dosent work....I have two kids to prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-25-2006, 11:01 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hey Buddy you are right about pulling out, it dont work..I have 3 kids to prove it...

you still alive? cool...cant wait for the funfly
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Dude get this idea. I'll act like I landed it, and then put down the antana, and then take off again! That would feak em out sooooo bad! Im going to be on the radio next week, pushing it on the old folks. Still alive, and AM TALKING TO A LAWYER AS WE SPEEK!!! Two years lost, and not once did they even hint to help me get off of that crap.....and never did any blood tests, wich are MANDATORY!!!! If I win, I'll buy you a new....prop. Or a hat. Or a house payment. Or dead hooker. But this lawyer is pumped! Maybe I can get a nanny! I'll call later.
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hey we will pull off that trickery i was talking about...and get it on film...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Huckin' it
Ewww its G3 hahaha nice video analog. Ya its all about timing and throttle.it will come to you trust me..dont get frustrated.
Do you know how I can get that plane in my G3? I don't have that plane in my G3 library. Thanks
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AFP is the best sim I have tried...G3 is good for helis but the planes are not even close to the real deal...AFP is real Close...for a 100 bucks, its the best 100 dollars you will spend...

but what the hell do I know...I cant even fly..
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This seems kind off obvious but a well trimmed aircraft will also help alot. I found that out on a maiden flight the other day with a untrimmed plane.
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Hey all.
I got AFPD about 3 weeks ago. I bought the program to start getting more into 3D. My first goal of the next flying season is to do a rolling harrier.
I have been trying to do them since I have gotten it. I get my fingers going into a rythm and If I start to think about what I'm doing, I lose it. If I just concentrate on getting the elevator where it needs to be my rudder finger usually follows to where it belongs. Just gotta keep on practicing.
I just finished my AFPD session 10 minutes ago actually...I really like it.
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Good Job!

If you have done right rolling outside (left circle) rolling harrier then try left rolling outside rolling harrier. After that, try inside rolling harrier ( left roll, left circle and vise versa ). The timing has to be a lot more precise than outside rolling harriers but once you get it then outside becomes even easier.

I usually initiate correction when the wings are at 45deg for outside and upright or inverted for inside rolling harrier. Straight rolling harrier start at in between the two angles.
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Hi guys! New here...
I, also, try to do some 3d maneuvers with AFPD.
The extra330 behaviour is quite similar to my C-ARF 2.6m extra.

I think (not sure yet ) I learn the timing, but the throtle management is kiling me. Can't keep the nose at the right angle.
Is there any triks in this area?

Inside the transmitter is a little metal band that hold the throtle stick in place... do you use this reversed - to feel the bumps? or as it comes - smooth transit?
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