How 2 Rolling Harrier

[analog_boy]

o sorry guys, i havent checked this post in a LONG time as i can see you guys want the QQ scheme
http://www.rfmodels.com/PaintSchemes/index.htm there it is. i modded mine cuz im a hitec/ZDZ guy. but that wwill quench your thirst. sorry for the wait.

[hillmanr2]

	Quote: Originally Posted by ab17luk
	Hi guys! New here... I, also, try to do some 3d maneuvers with AFPD. The extra330 behaviour is quite similar to my C-ARF 2.6m extra. I think (not sure yet ) I learn the timing, but the throtle management is kiling me. Can't keep the nose at the right angle. Is there any triks in this area? Inside the transmitter is a little metal band that hold the throtle stick in place... do you use this reversed - to feel the bumps? or as it comes - smooth transit?

Practice, Practice and Practice. This is the trick. Think of the throttle as being a control surface like the elevator. Foamies help alot, get real close to yourself and see whats going on.

[nerdc0re79]

cant do it.

[nerdc0re79]

cant do it =(

[Mithrandir]

http://media.putfile.com/Comp-Arf-Su...ABA-DigiServos

Use your sim... go to the mode where you are flying "Chase" behind the model... practice 'til the fuse is at a steady angle

[cowtown flyer]

	Quote: Originally Posted by bodywerks
	A perfectly mastered harrier roll requires precise throttle inputs as it rolls to knife edge to maintaint the right angle of attack and constant speed. If you want to see rolling harriers at their best, watch Mark Leseberg. I think he may be even better than the Godfather himself. You can go to www.aero-works.net, click on the Extra 260, and scroll down to the video link and click. It is a video of Leseberg wringing out that plane, and there are a lot of harrier maneuvers in it. If you turn the volume up, you may be able to hear him blipping the throttle every time he approaches knife edge...

I was trying to find this video..but which 260 ( size ) ???

[ATC666]

Its the 50cc size.

[tele1974]

Where did you find the plane you are flying in the G3 sim? It looks like a quique yak.

Thanks

[thewrap]

Lots of practice on the sim. It took me about 3 months non stop practice to get a small line going then about another 2-3 months to get it at a constant. Now it's just something that comes naturally. Keep practicing.

[wc524]

A rolling harrier is hard....YES!

Here's the easiest way that I've taught several people at our field to master the rolling harrier.

The first common mistake is that people try to tackle both the elevator and rudder inputs all at once. So, we are going to take this out of play. First choose a way you want/like to roll (Left or Right). Once you do this get on a simulator and try these following instructions.

1. Patience (Rolling harriers don't happen overnight)
2. Reduce the throttle and add elevator to put the plane into a harrier
3. Once in a solid harrier begin to roll the plane and use ONLY ELEVATOR to correct.
4. If you lose altitude you either are behind in the timing or you need to increase your throttle to keep it from stalling. Get the throttle pulses down.
5. Master this first stage

6. Once comfortable getting the plane down on the deck doing rolling harriers with only elevator, so we can move to the rudder.

7. Get in a high alpha knife edge then just like step 2 reduce your throttle close to stall, but this time we are going to use only rudder input instead of elevator.
8. As you roll the plane in a rolling harrier DO NOT USE ELEVATOR use ONLY RUDDER.
9. Practice getting the timing of the rudder input down along with the throttle input.
10. Master this just like the first stage

11. Incorporating Elevator and Rudder.
Since we know how to do a rolling harrier with just elevator and rudder we know the timing points and where the throttle inputs are. All you have to do is incorporate the two together and practice on the sim until you can do this with confidence before getting down low on the deck with your real plane.

A few tips:
I prefer to use more rudder than elevator because it keeps the plane in a nice angle while rolling and it looks better than when you use a lot of elevator. Once you have mastered rolling your natural way (Left or Right) try to roll the other way to really impress people by switching rolls in mid-roll.

The only difference between a straight line rolling harrier and the circular rolling harrier is timing. Remember to be patient and in no time you will be rolling like a champ.

Here's a video of me doing some rolling harriers and 3D:
http://www.flyinggiants.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37091&sort=1&ppuser=9003

[Polarrod49]

Its all about the left stick when you master the rudder rolling harriers come with ease. Also try doing a slow roll master that and not only will rolling harriers come torque rolls and othe awesome 3D tricks will come. remember left stick.